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June 16th 10, 08:15 PM
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Crossrail - Transport Secretary's statement
On Jun 16, 11:17*am, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:29:06 -0700 (PDT), E27002 wrote: On Jun 16, 12:14*am, Martin Petrov wrote: Crossrail is already needed to relieve the eastern end of the Central line, recession or not. I did not know that was the case. *In previous recessions the crush on the TfL Central Line has eased. Is there evidence of much of a drop? Anecdotally, I haven't found the journey any more pleasant....! My boots are not on that particular piece of ground. *According to others posting here there is no noticeable reduction. *So my assumption was wrong. Back in the early nineties the UK had a severe economic slowdown. Apparently, according my Essex based contacts; it was not hard to find a seat on the Central Line, at Liverpool St, during the peak! I personally doubt that observation - even from the 1990s. The tube's ridership has grown considerably since the 1990s and despite a dip over the last year or so it is higher than it was back in the 1990s. *The AM peak had, before the recent recession, spread to start prior to 0700 in the suburbs and was getting earlier by the week. I know that simply from travelling at that time and seeing the increased ridership / reduced likelihood of a seat with my own eyes. I do not travel in the height of the peak very often but it is horrendous. There are many reports of it taking between 5 - 7 trains before people can board at Bethnal Green with similar waits at Liverpool Street on the Central Line. Here is a link to a photo taken this morning in the AM peak - not by me - of people waiting for a sub surface train at Liverpool Street LUL. http://www.flickr.com/photos/teflon/4705957181/ You will note it is about 8 people deep on the platform. This is not unusual and I'd venture to suggest that the Central Line is worse than this. *I also don't recall there being any sort of service disruption this morning which would have caused such a massive crowd. Then, you have proved to me that the need for Crossrail is now. :-) |
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