Farringdon to be London's busiest station
 

"Stephen Furley" wrote in message
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On 15 July, 16:45, "Peter Masson" wrote:
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6. 2 Thameslink, 2 Met/H&C/Circle Teacup, and 2 Crossrail

That's what I was expecting, but it doesn't seem many to handle that
number of trains.

The 140 tph is the peak service. 24 tph each way on each line - actually,
the Met etc is already at around 27 tph, and is planned for 32 tph (16 Met,
8 H&C and 8 Circle Teacup) with the S stock and new signalling, So if the
aspirations for 24 tph on both Thameslink and Crossrail come about,
Farringdon could have 160 tph on 6 platforms.

Peter

Farringdon to be London's busiest station
 

On Jul 15, 1:13*pm, "Peter Masson" wrote:
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On 15 July, 16:45, "Peter Masson" wrote:
"Stephen Furley" wrote in message

6. 2 Thameslink, 2 Met/H&C/Circle Teacup, and 2 Crossrail

That's what I was expecting, but it doesn't seem many to handle that
number of trains.

The 140 tph is the peak service. 24 tph each way on each line - actually,
the Met etc is already at around 27 tph, and is planned for 32 tph (16 Met,
8 H&C and 8 Circle Teacup) with the S stock and new signalling, So if the
aspirations for 24 tph on both Thameslink and Crossrail come about,
Farringdon could have 160 tph on 6 platforms.

Does anyong have the numbers for Clapham Junction?

Also, one would imagine the numbers for the KX St. P complex must be
very high.

Farringdon to be London's busiest station
 

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:49:30 -0700 (PDT), 1506
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On Jul 15, 1:13*pm, "Peter Masson" wrote:
"Stephen Furley" wrote in message

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On 15 July, 16:45, "Peter Masson" wrote:
"Stephen Furley" wrote in message

6. 2 Thameslink, 2 Met/H&C/Circle Teacup, and 2 Crossrail

That's what I was expecting, but it doesn't seem many to handle that
number of trains.

The 140 tph is the peak service. 24 tph each way on each line - actually,
the Met etc is already at around 27 tph, and is planned for 32 tph (16 Met,
8 H&C and 8 Circle Teacup) with the S stock and new signalling, So if the
aspirations for 24 tph on both Thameslink and Crossrail come about,
Farringdon could have 160 tph on 6 platforms.

Does anyong have the numbers for Clapham Junction?

If we're adding together NR and LU services at the same station then
how about Euston or Kings Cross St Pancras ?

Also, one would imagine the numbers for the KX St. P complex must be
very high.

Farringdon to be London's busiest station
 

Once upon a time, Paul Scott wrote:

I suppose we ought to be grateful they don't count arrivals and
departures separately as well...

Shhh! Don't give them ideas! :-)

--
- The Iron Jelloid

Farringdon to be London's busiest station
 

On Jul 15, 2:40*pm, Charles Ellson wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:49:30 -0700 (PDT), 1506
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On Jul 15, 1:13*pm, "Peter Masson" wrote:
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On 15 July, 16:45, "Peter Masson" wrote:
"Stephen Furley" wrote in message

6. 2 Thameslink, 2 Met/H&C/Circle Teacup, and 2 Crossrail

That's what I was expecting, but it doesn't seem many to handle that
number of trains.

The 140 tph is the peak service. 24 tph each way on each line - actually,
the Met etc is already at around 27 tph, and is planned for 32 tph (16 Met,
8 H&C and 8 Circle Teacup) with the S stock and new signalling, So if the
aspirations for 24 tph on both Thameslink and Crossrail come about,
Farringdon could have 160 tph on 6 platforms.

Does anyong have the numbers for Clapham Junction?

If we're adding together NR and LU services at the same station then
how about Euston or Kings Cross St Pancras ?



Also, one would imagine the numbers for the KX St. P complex must be
very high.- Hide quoted text -

Or, Waterloo even! Although I think KX StP probably takes the prize:
St P International
HS1 Suburban
Thameslink
MML
KX Mainline
KX Suburban
Circle
H&C
Metropolitan
Northern
Picadilly
Victoria

Farringdon to be London's busiest station
 

"This would see Farringdon surpass Clapham Junction as Britain's busiest
train station and bring passengers from outer London closer to the City and
Canary Wharf."

As you (and others) say elsewhere a load of old spin. *


Maybe, but I suspect our (trainspotter’s) definition of busiest might
be rather different to the normals.

I’m guessing those that just pass through Clapham, without actually
getting on or off, are not being counted for the purposes of this
comparison.

Farringdon to be London's busiest station
 

"1506" wrote

Or, Waterloo even! Although I think KX StP probably takes the prize:
St P International
HS1 Suburban
Thameslink
MML
KX Mainline
KX Suburban
Circle
H&C
Metropolitan
Northern
Picadilly
Victoria

I would go with Waterloo
Waterloo Main
Waterloo East (trains to and from Charing Cross)
Northern
Bakerloo
Jubilee
W&C

Compared with the southern TOCs, at Waterloo and at Charing Cross, the
terminal platforms at St Pancras (all three parts) and Kings Cross are
practically quiet rural stations. Charing Cross dispatches just about as
many trains in an hour from 6 platforms as Kings Cross and St Pancras
(except LL) combined do from 22 (or is it 23 now?), and Waterloo, with
slightly fewer non-theatre platforms than KXStP, dispatches twice as many.

Peter

Farringdon to be London's busiest station
 

On 16 July, 21:34, "Peter Masson" wrote:
"1506" wrote



Or, Waterloo even! *Although I think KX StP probably takes the prize:
St P International
HS1 Suburban
Thameslink
MML
KX Mainline
KX Suburban
Circle
H&C
Metropolitan
Northern
Picadilly
Victoria

I would go with Waterloo
Waterloo Main
Waterloo East (trains to and from Charing Cross)
Northern
Bakerloo
Jubilee
W&C

Compared with the southern TOCs, at Waterloo and at Charing Cross, the
terminal platforms at St Pancras (all three parts) and Kings Cross are
practically quiet rural stations. Charing Cross dispatches just about as
many trains in an hour from 6 platforms as Kings Cross and St Pancras
(except LL) combined do from 22 (or is it 23 now?), and Waterloo, with
slightly fewer non-theatre platforms than KXStP, dispatches twice as many..

Peter

Despite it not being southern, I think that Fenchurch street may
despatch more trains per platform than even Charing Cross. (Not
relevant to the large complex idea though.)

Farringdon to be London's busiest station
 

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(Peter Masson) wrote:

Compared with the southern TOCs, at Waterloo and at Charing Cross,
the terminal platforms at St Pancras (all three parts) and Kings
Cross are practically quiet rural stations. Charing Cross
dispatches just about as many trains in an hour from 6 platforms as
Kings Cross and St Pancras (except LL) combined do from 22 (or is
it 23 now?), and Waterloo, with slightly fewer non-theatre
platforms than KXStP, dispatches twice as many.

King's Cross mainline station only has 10 platforms at present. Although 0
has opened, 2 and 3 are out of use under possession.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Farringdon to be London's busiest station
 

"MIG" wrote in message
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Despite it not being southern, I think that Fenchurch street may
despatch more trains per platform than even Charing Cross. (Not
relevant to the large complex idea though.)

Fenchurch St has a departure from each of the four platforms every 10
minutes or so. The departures work their way across the station with the
arriving trains running in parallel into the recently vacated adjacent
platform. So you only get one conflicting move every 10 minutes. At any
rate, that is what happened in the days of slam door stock, I assume it's
the same now. If you get a failure in one of the platforms then it all falls
apart very quickly!

John