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Paul Scott July 15th 10 02:51 PM

Farringdon to be London's busiest station
 
In terms of trains calling, according to this DfT press release:

http://nds.coi.gov.uk/clientmicrosite/Content/Detail.aspx?ClientId=202&NewsAreaId=2&ReleaseID=41 4470&SubjectId=36

"From 2017, the plan is for upwards of 140 trains per hour to flow through
Farringdon as north/south Thameslink, east/west Crossrail and London
Underground services all meet at the new station."

"This would see Farringdon surpass Clapham Junction as Britain's busiest
train station and bring passengers from outer London closer to the City and
Canary Wharf."

Oh good. No doubt all the interchange flows have been properly modelled and
there'll be no problems with space on those cramped Thameslink and LU
platforms.

Paul S




1506[_2_] July 15th 10 03:36 PM

Farringdon to be London's busiest station
 
On Jul 15, 7:51*am, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
In terms of trains calling, according to this DfT press release:

http://nds.coi.gov.uk/clientmicrosite/Content/Detail.aspx?ClientId=20....

"From 2017, the plan is for upwards of 140 trains per hour to flow through
Farringdon as north/south Thameslink, east/west Crossrail and London
Underground services all meet at the new station."

"This would see Farringdon surpass Clapham Junction as Britain's busiest
train station and bring passengers from outer London closer to the City and
Canary Wharf."

Oh good. No doubt all the interchange flows have been properly modelled and
there'll be no problems with space on those cramped Thameslink and LU
platforms.

AFIK there will be a new set of entrances with their own suspended
slab above the Thameslink and Circle platforms. One would hope that
good use is being made of the space to the east of Thameslink vacated
by the Moorgate branch.

Peter Masson[_2_] July 15th 10 03:37 PM

Farringdon to be London's busiest station
 


"Paul Scott" wrote in message
...
In terms of trains calling, according to this DfT press release:

http://nds.coi.gov.uk/clientmicrosite/Content/Detail.aspx?ClientId=202&NewsAreaId=2&ReleaseID=41 4470&SubjectId=36

"From 2017, the plan is for upwards of 140 trains per hour to flow through
Farringdon as north/south Thameslink, east/west Crossrail and London
Underground services all meet at the new station."

"This would see Farringdon surpass Clapham Junction as Britain's busiest
train station and bring passengers from outer London closer to the City
and Canary Wharf."

Oh good. No doubt all the interchange flows have been properly modelled
and there'll be no problems with space on those cramped Thameslink and LU
platforms.

They seem to be talking numbers of trains, in which case I'd expect London
Bridge (Southeastern to/from Charing Cross and Cannon Street, Thameslink,
Southern terminating, Northern, and Jubilee) to be significantly busier, and
I suspect others will be even busier.

Peter


Stephen Furley July 15th 10 03:41 PM

Farringdon to be London's busiest station
 
On 15 July, 16:37, "Peter Masson" wrote:

They seem to be talking numbers of trains, in which case I'd expect London
Bridge (Southeastern to/from Charing Cross and Cannon Street, Thameslink,
Southern terminating, Northern, and Jubilee) to be significantly busier, and
I suspect others will be even busier.


How many platforms is Farringdon going to have when the works are
complete?


Paul Scott July 15th 10 03:42 PM

Farringdon to be London's busiest station
 


"1506" wrote in message
...

AFIK there will be a new set of entrances with their own suspended
slab above the Thameslink and Circle platforms.


No there isn't. You must have the drawings the wrong way up. The new slab is
above the southward extensions of the Thameslink platforms. There are no
significant improvements to the existing length of the central island, ie
between southbound Thameslink and westbound Circle.

Paul S


Peter Masson[_2_] July 15th 10 03:45 PM

Farringdon to be London's busiest station
 


"Stephen Furley" wrote in message
...
On 15 July, 16:37, "Peter Masson" wrote:

They seem to be talking numbers of trains, in which case I'd expect
London
Bridge (Southeastern to/from Charing Cross and Cannon Street, Thameslink,
Southern terminating, Northern, and Jubilee) to be significantly busier,
and
I suspect others will be even busier.


How many platforms is Farringdon going to have when the works are
complete?

6. 2 Thameslink, 2 Met/H&C/Circle Teacup, and 2 Crossrail

Peter


Paul Scott July 15th 10 04:03 PM

Farringdon to be London's busiest station
 


"Peter Masson" wrote in message
...

They seem to be talking numbers of trains, in which case I'd expect London
Bridge (Southeastern to/from Charing Cross and Cannon Street, Thameslink,
Southern terminating, Northern, and Jubilee) to be significantly busier,
and I suspect others will be even busier.


Exactly - the number is exaggeration pure and simple. I reckon the post
Thameslink London Bridge through service is about 66 each direction, before
you even look at terminators or LU.

This counting both directions, as we've discussed here before - where what
is usually known as a '24 tph service' becomes 48 tph is the modern way of
spinning things. There's no consistency though, e.g. they still talk about
the upcoming 6tph ECML timetable, but surely applying equivalent logic that
should be a 12 tph service?

I suppose we ought to be grateful they don't count arrivals and departures
separately as well...

Paul S


Roy Stilling[_2_] July 15th 10 04:12 PM

Farringdon to be London's busiest station
 
I was wondering if the new pedestrian bridges at Farringdon are the
finished article or merely temporary during the works. They feel
quite "wobbly" in places.
--
Roy

Paul Scott July 15th 10 04:17 PM

Farringdon to be London's busiest station
 


"Roy Stilling" wrote in message
...
I was wondering if the new pedestrian bridges at Farringdon are the
finished article or merely temporary during the works. They feel
quite "wobbly" in places.


The installer went bankrupt, and I think work has been suspended for about 6
months, so there may be some bolts need doing up a bit more...

:-)

Paul


Stephen Furley July 15th 10 07:48 PM

Farringdon to be London's busiest station
 
On 15 July, 16:45, "Peter Masson" wrote:
"Stephen Furley" wrote in message


6. 2 Thameslink, 2 Met/H&C/Circle Teacup, and 2 Crossrail


That's what I was expecting, but it doesn't seem many to handle that
number of trains.


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