On Fri, 30 Jul 2010, d wrote:

I had to use the tube today and had the pleasure of some eejit wearing a
rucksack in front of me constantly swivelling it about and bumping me.
Happily I managed to get my own back when I got off the train by just
shoving past their rucksack and almost knocking them over but shouldn't
there be some sort of bylaw for not wearing huge rucksacks to deal with
these sorts of idiots who seem to think they're still trecking in nepal
even when squashed on the victoria line?

Yes, there should. Also people who roll their little rolly cases in the
tube passageways, and people who think that just having stepped off a
train is the right time to put their bag down and fiddle with it.

And also people who only start retrieving their ticket when they get to a
gate.

And people who think right in front of an entrance or the foot of an
escalator is the right place to stand in groups of a dozen and discuss
where to go.

And people who walk down the middle of a passageway, occupying the whole
thing, at a speed slower than intended by anyone else. Admittedly this
only applies to wide people and narrow passages, but this is London, and
that is a frequent combination.

Do we in fact need a taxonomy of intolerable underground behaviour?

First person to mention people using escalators while not carrying a dog
gets a kicking.

tom

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sh(1) was the first MOO

On 2010-07-30, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010, d wrote:

I had to use the tube today and had the pleasure of some eejit wearing a
rucksack in front of me constantly swivelling it about and bumping me.
Happily I managed to get my own back when I got off the train by just
shoving past their rucksack and almost knocking them over but shouldn't
there be some sort of bylaw for not wearing huge rucksacks to deal with
these sorts of idiots who seem to think they're still trecking in nepal
even when squashed on the victoria line?

Yes, there should. Also people who roll their little rolly cases in the
tube passageways,

And people who walk down the middle of a passageway, occupying the whole
thing, at a speed slower than intended by anyone else. Admittedly this
only applies to wide people and narrow passages, but this is London, and
that is a frequent combination.

Do we in fact need a taxonomy of intolerable underground behaviour?


Perhaps, but not yours. I have removed a lot of your list, but what's
left is pretty much equivalent to saying that people with disabilities
should stay home and keep out of your way.

E.

Greetings.

In article , Eric wrote:
On 2010-07-30, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010, d wrote:

And people who walk down the middle of a passageway, occupying the whole
thing, at a speed slower than intended by anyone else. Admittedly this
only applies to wide people and narrow passages, but this is London, and
that is a frequent combination.

Do we in fact need a taxonomy of intolerable underground behaviour?


Perhaps, but not yours. I have removed a lot of your list, but what's
left is pretty much equivalent to saying that people with disabilities
should stay home and keep out of your way.

Exactly what disability causes people to walk slowly down the middle of a
narrow passageway? Is there some affliction that prevents them from
keeping to one side, thereby allowing faster-moving traffic to pass them?
Or is "being inconsiderate of others" now classed as a disability?

Regards,
Tristan

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On 01/08/2010 13:21, Tristan Miller wrote:
Greetings.

In , Eric wrote:
On 2010-07-30, Tom wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010, d wrote:

And people who walk down the middle of a passageway, occupying the whole
thing, at a speed slower than intended by anyone else. Admittedly this
only applies to wide people and narrow passages, but this is London, and
that is a frequent combination.

Do we in fact need a taxonomy of intolerable underground behaviour?


Perhaps, but not yours. I have removed a lot of your list, but what's
left is pretty much equivalent to saying that people with disabilities
should stay home and keep out of your way.

Exactly what disability causes people to walk slowly down the middle of a
narrow passageway? Is there some affliction that prevents them from
keeping to one side, thereby allowing faster-moving traffic to pass them?

Being really, seriously, even Americans would be shocked, overweight?

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

On Sun, Aug 01, 2010 at 05:06:40PM +0100, Arthur Figgis wrote:
On 01/08/2010 13:21, Tristan Miller wrote:
Exactly what disability causes people to walk slowly down the middle of a
narrow passageway? Is there some affliction that prevents them from
keeping to one side, thereby allowing faster-moving traffic to pass them?
Being really, seriously, even Americans would be shocked, overweight?

I'm a fatty and I manage to keep to one side or the other of a
passageway.

--
David Cantrell | Enforcer, South London Linguistic Massive

It wouldn't hurt to think like a serial killer every so often.
Purely for purposes of prevention, of course.

On 2010-08-01, Tristan Miller wrote:
Greetings.

In article , Eric wrote:
On 2010-07-30, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010, d wrote:

And people who walk down the middle of a passageway, occupying the whole
thing, at a speed slower than intended by anyone else. Admittedly this
only applies to wide people and narrow passages, but this is London, and
that is a frequent combination.

Do we in fact need a taxonomy of intolerable underground behaviour?


Perhaps, but not yours. I have removed a lot of your list, but what's
left is pretty much equivalent to saying that people with disabilities
should stay home and keep out of your way.

Exactly what disability causes people to walk slowly down the middle of a
narrow passageway? Is there some affliction that prevents them from
keeping to one side, thereby allowing faster-moving traffic to pass them?
Or is "being inconsiderate of others" now classed as a disability?


Normally, I would say "see my response to another post", but I think in
this case I should make sure you see it by repeating it here. Apologies
to anyone who is thinking "I've read this before".

As well as slowness, there is lack of manoeuvrability, and the stick or
similar which makes the person wider than they would otherwise be. If
the stick is on the wall side, more clearance is needed to keep the
wall from interfering than a able-bodied person would need for their
own body-parts. If the stick is on the outside, any accompanying person
will quite likely be in a protective position, making the two-person
combination wider still. This is due to the number of times the stick
has actually been kicked away by the unthinking (so far, in our case,
without disastrous consequence).

There are also the issues of not being able to pause when necessary,
and being forced to pause when not necessary, both of which are a
problem.

Then there's having luggage (in whatever form) as well!

Or are you really one of those who believes that we should stay at home
for ever?

Someone who seems inconsiderate may still be doing they best they can.

Eric

In message , Tristan Miller
writes
Exactly what disability causes people to walk slowly down the middle of a
narrow passageway? Is there some affliction that prevents them from
keeping to one side, thereby allowing faster-moving traffic to pass them?
Or is "being inconsiderate of others" now classed as a disability?
I'm not disabled but am frequently confused by the use of the tube. In
this country we drive on the left, so it is normal to walk on the left,
but the escalators say stand on the right. Londoners who should know
better frequently go against the arrows and arrive on a platform from
the exit, confusing the tourists. What's the convention for walking
through those small passages that interlink platforms etc?
--
Clive

On Aug 2, 3:44*pm, Clive wrote:

In message , Tristan Miller
writes:
Exactly what disability causes people to walk slowly down the middle of a
narrow passageway? *Is there some affliction that prevents them from
keeping to one side, thereby allowing faster-moving traffic to pass them?
Or is "being inconsiderate of others" now classed as a disability?

I'm not disabled but am frequently confused by the use of the tube. * In
this country we drive on the left, so it is normal to walk on the left,
but the escalators say stand on the right. [...]*

And? It's results in the same outcome, in that others can walk on the
left.


[...] Londoners who should know
better frequently go against the arrows and arrive on a platform from
the exit, confusing the tourists. [...]

Perhaps they do that because they *do* know better! (Many tourists are
readily confused anyhow - if Londoners had to alter all their
behaviours so as to avoid confusing tourists, nothing would happen in
London.)


[...]* What's the convention for walking
through those small passages that interlink platforms etc?

On the left, as with staircases.

On 2 Aug, 17:15, Mizter T wrote:
On Aug 2, 3:44*pm, Clive wrote:

In message , Tristan Miller
writes:
Exactly what disability causes people to walk slowly down the middle of a
narrow passageway? *Is there some affliction that prevents them from
keeping to one side, thereby allowing faster-moving traffic to pass them?
Or is "being inconsiderate of others" now classed as a disability?

I'm not disabled but am frequently confused by the use of the tube. * In
this country we drive on the left, so it is normal to walk on the left,
but the escalators say stand on the right. [...]*

And? It's results in the same outcome, in that others can walk on the
left.



[...] Londoners who should know
better frequently go against the arrows and arrive on a platform from
the exit, confusing the tourists. [...]

Perhaps they do that because they *do* know better! (Many tourists are
readily confused anyhow - if Londoners had to alter all their
behaviours so as to avoid confusing tourists, nothing would happen in
London.)

It generally makes sense to follow the arrows, but there are a couple
of notable exceptions.

At Bank, pretty well all signs must be ignored if possible, but Bank
is weird.

The wrong passageway that I would use would be the cross passageway at
Euston in the morning, at the level between the escalators. The one
slightly further north is filled both with people heading from the
mainline station to the City branch/Victoria Line and with people
trying to exit from the Charing Cross branch. The other one isn't
really used at all unless someone wanted to change from Victoria Line
to Charing Cross branch there.

(I don't understand why they don't avoid this crush by making both
escalators from the ticket hall two-way.)





[...]* What's the convention for walking
through those small passages that interlink platforms etc?

On the left, as with staircases.

"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
rth.li...

First person to mention people using escalators while not carrying a dog
gets a kicking.

I thought they all got out at Barking?

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Brian
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