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On 25/08/10 23:18, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 18:05:16 on Wed, 25 Aug 2010, remarked: I have searched tfl's website to no avail, or at least I haven't stumbled across the answer I seek so I now turn to the people who can provide the real answers. Can an Oyster card be used to pay more than one person's fare per ride? Example, here in Chicago, the Chicago Card Plus can be swiped up to six times in a row to admit up to six folks at a time. Not for simultaneous rides (because of the daily capping if nothing else). But they can legitimately be used for consecutive rides by different people, iirc. Roland is right; you can't do that. Apart from the fact that the gates won't let you, each passenger must hold either a ticket for their journey or a validated Oyster card. Failure to do that would leave you open to prosecution You can indeed share Oyster cards provided they only have Pay As You Go on them. (You can't share Oyster cards which have period Travelcards or other such products loaded onto them, though.) But multiple simultaneous passengers requires multiple Oyster cards (or paper tickets). -roy |
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On 25/08/10 23:47, wrote:
In article2Ygdo.18922$S_1.9205@hurricane, (Roy Badami) wrote: Presumably you also have to actually hold the railcard registered to an Oyster card as well? I have a suspicion you're not allowed to share an Oyster with a railcard registered to it, in the same way you're not allowed to share an Oyster with a period Travelcard on it. I was intentionally vague when I said "and other such products" precisely because I wasn't entirely sure about the railcard rules. -roy |
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In article Tohdo.31750$r24.8190@hurricane, (Roy
Badami) wrote: On 25/08/10 23:47, wrote: In article2Ygdo.18922$S_1.9205@hurricane, (Roy Badami) wrote: Presumably you also have to actually hold the railcard registered to an Oyster card as well? I have a suspicion you're not allowed to share an Oyster with a railcard registered to it, in the same way you're not allowed to share an Oyster with a period Travelcard on it. I was intentionally vague when I said "and other such products" precisely because I wasn't entirely sure about the railcard rules. I assume it must be so or else someone might get discounts to which they are not entitled. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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...in the same way you're not allowed to share an Oyster with a period
Travelcard on it.... Another question I can't answer to my satisfaction on tfl's site: Is a Travelcard loaded onto an Oyster the same thing as a traditional paper travelcard? eg: it can be programmed to be effective 1, 3, 4 or 7 days? If so, maybe that would solve my dilemma (or exacerbate it!). Rich |
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wrote on 29 August 2010 21:48:29 ...
...in the same way you're not allowed to share an Oyster with a period Travelcard on it.... Another question I can't answer to my satisfaction on tfl's site: Is a Travelcard loaded onto an Oyster the same thing as a traditional paper travelcard? eg: it can be programmed to be effective 1, 3, 4 or 7 days? If so, maybe that would solve my dilemma (or exacerbate it!). Paper Travelcards are only available for 1 day (peak or off-peak), 7 days or longer (not 3 or 4 days). You can load a 7-day or longer Travelcard on to an Oyster card, but not a 1-day Travelcard. The benefits of a 1-day Travelcard are achieved by capping the PAYG charges for travel on a single day. -- Richard J. (to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address) |
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"Richard J." wrote in message
news:Y9Aeo.54027$S_1.44579@hurricane... wrote on 29 August 2010 21:48:29 ... ...in the same way you're not allowed to share an Oyster with a period Travelcard on it.... Another question I can't answer to my satisfaction on tfl's site: Is a Travelcard loaded onto an Oyster the same thing as a traditional paper travelcard? eg: it can be programmed to be effective 1, 3, 4 or 7 days? If so, maybe that would solve my dilemma (or exacerbate it!). Paper Travelcards are only available for 1 day (peak or off-peak), 7 days or longer (not 3 or 4 days). You can load a 7-day or longer Travelcard on to an Oyster card, but not a 1-day Travelcard. The benefits of a 1-day Travelcard are achieved by capping the PAYG charges for travel on a single day. -- Richard J. (to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address) Sorry, I should have been more explicit. London Visitor's Travelcard is what I meant to say. Which had the intermediate day options attached to it, altho I see it has now been condensed into two choices only - 3 or 7 days. http://booking.britrail.com/index.ac...or_Travel_Card Perhaps I am getting in front of myself & should wait a bit & see what options are available as I get closer to the visiting date. Again, I appreciate all the advice. |
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In message Y9Aeo.54027$S_1.44579@hurricane of Sun, 29 Aug 2010
22:19:52 in uk.transport.london, Richard J. writes wrote on 29 August 2010 21:48:29 ... ...in the same way you're not allowed to share an Oyster with a period Travelcard on it.... Another question I can't answer to my satisfaction on tfl's site: Is a Travelcard loaded onto an Oyster the same thing as a traditional paper travelcard? eg: it can be programmed to be effective 1, 3, 4 or 7 days? If so, maybe that would solve my dilemma (or exacerbate it!). Paper Travelcards are only available for 1 day (peak or off-peak), 7 days or longer (not 3 or 4 days). You can load a 7-day or longer Travelcard on to an Oyster card, but not a 1-day Travelcard. The benefits of a 1-day Travelcard are achieved by capping the PAYG charges for travel on a single day. Another advantage of Travelcards is that maximum journey times do not apply. cf. http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14872.aspx. That page says "If you spend longer, you will be charged up to £7.00." I have been charged £12.00 for such journeys. e.g. touch in peak time in zone 3 and touch out in peak time in zone 1 more than 90 minutes later. The 2 touches are charged as 2 journeys: 1 unfinished and 1 unstarted. Ticket office staff are usually good enough to refund the quiet extra charges - if you notice them being made. That page does not describe combining a Travelcard and a PAYG fare. e.g. If you have a Zone 1-2 Travelcard loaded on an Oyster card and travel from Zone 1-4 in more than the maximum journey time. In that case the maximum journey time ignores the Travelcard. Without a Travelcard, each end of the journey is charged a maximum fare. I once made such a journey and was charged a maximum fare for my exit. The advantage of PAYG seems to be that you are charged a fairly reasonable fare for journeys at the risk of touching problems on Underground, DLR and National Rail. -- Walter Briscoe |
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"Roy Badami" wrote in message
news:2Ygdo.18922$S_1.9205@hurricane... On 25/08/10 23:18, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 18:05:16 on Wed, 25 Aug 2010, remarked: I have searched tfl's website to no avail, or at least I haven't stumbled across the answer I seek so I now turn to the people who can provide the real answers. Can an Oyster card be used to pay more than one person's fare per ride? Example, here in Chicago, the Chicago Card Plus can be swiped up to six times in a row to admit up to six folks at a time. Not for simultaneous rides (because of the daily capping if nothing else). But they can legitimately be used for consecutive rides by different people, iirc. Roland is right; you can't do that. Apart from the fact that the gates won't let you, each passenger must hold either a ticket for their journey or a validated Oyster card. Failure to do that would leave you open to prosecution You can indeed share Oyster cards provided they only have Pay As You Go on them. (You can't share Oyster cards which have period Travelcards or other such products loaded onto them, though.) But multiple simultaneous passengers requires multiple Oyster cards (or paper tickets). -roy Much appreciated. Thank you. I was/am trying to come up with an answer that won't leave me with 4 Oyster cards with a balance on them. Two I don't mind as wife & I frequent London 2 or 3 times a year. For this particular trip, I would normally have bought four 3-Day travelcards good for zones 1-6 (all 6 zones out of necessity). |
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