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Old August 25th 10, 10:05 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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I have searched tfl's website to no avail, or at least I haven't stumbled
across the answer I seek so I now turn to the people who can provide the
real answers. Can an Oyster card be used to pay more than one person's fare
per ride? Example, here in Chicago, the Chicago Card Plus can be swiped up
to six times in a row to admit up to six folks at a time. Thanks.

Rich

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In article 2Ygdo.18922$S_1.9205@hurricane, (Roy
Badami) wrote:

On 25/08/10 23:18, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at
18:05:16
on Wed, 25 Aug 2010,
remarked:
I have searched tfl's website to no avail, or at least I haven't
stumbled across the answer I seek so I now turn to the people who can
provide the real answers. Can an Oyster card be used to pay more than
one person's fare per ride? Example, here in Chicago, the Chicago
Card Plus can be swiped up to six times in a row to admit up to six
folks at a time.


Not for simultaneous rides (because of the daily capping if nothing
else). But they can legitimately be used for consecutive rides by
different people, iirc.


Roland is right; you can't do that. Apart from the fact that the
gates won't let you, each passenger must hold either a ticket for
their journey or a validated Oyster card. Failure to do that would
leave you open to prosecution

You can indeed share Oyster cards provided they only have Pay As
You Go on them. (You can't share Oyster cards which have period
Travelcards or other such products loaded onto them, though.) But
multiple simultaneous passengers requires multiple Oyster cards (or
paper tickets).


Presumably you also have to actually hold the railcard registered to an
Oyster card as well?

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Old August 29th 10, 08:48 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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...in the same way you're not allowed to share an Oyster with a period
Travelcard on it....


Another question I can't answer to my satisfaction on tfl's site: Is a
Travelcard loaded onto an Oyster the same thing as a traditional paper
travelcard? eg: it can be programmed to be effective 1, 3, 4 or 7 days?
If so, maybe that would solve my dilemma (or exacerbate it!).

Rich

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"Roy Badami" wrote in message
news:2Ygdo.18922$S_1.9205@hurricane...
On 25/08/10 23:18, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 18:05:16
on Wed, 25 Aug 2010, remarked:
I have searched tfl's website to no avail, or at least I haven't
stumbled across the answer I seek so I now turn to the people who can
provide the real answers. Can an Oyster card be used to pay more than
one person's fare per ride? Example, here in Chicago, the Chicago Card
Plus can be swiped up to six times in a row to admit up to six folks
at a time.


Not for simultaneous rides (because of the daily capping if nothing
else). But they can legitimately be used for consecutive rides by
different people, iirc.


Roland is right; you can't do that. Apart from the fact that the gates
won't let you, each passenger must hold either a ticket for their journey
or a validated Oyster card. Failure to do that would leave you open to
prosecution

You can indeed share Oyster cards provided they only have Pay As You Go on
them. (You can't share Oyster cards which have period Travelcards or
other such products loaded onto them, though.) But multiple simultaneous
passengers requires multiple Oyster cards (or paper tickets).

-roy


Much appreciated. Thank you. I was/am trying to come up with an answer
that won't leave me with 4 Oyster cards with a balance on them. Two I don't
mind as wife & I frequent London 2 or 3 times a year. For this particular
trip, I would normally have bought four 3-Day travelcards good for zones 1-6
(all 6 zones out of necessity).

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On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 19:48:30 -0400, wrote:

Much appreciated. Thank you. I was/am trying to come up with an answer
that won't leave me with 4 Oyster cards with a balance on them. Two I don't
mind as wife & I frequent London 2 or 3 times a year. For this particular
trip, I would normally have bought four 3-Day travelcards good for zones 1-6
(all 6 zones out of necessity).


Given that (I think) a 3-day Travelcard was just priced at three times
a One Day Travelcard, and you can still buy the latter on paper, you
could just buy three of those each.

Failing that, cash the Oyster cards in at the end and get a refund of
the deposit and balance.

Neil
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On Aug 26, 8:53*am, Neil Williams
wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 19:48:30 -0400, wrote:
Much appreciated. *Thank you. *I was/am trying to come up with an answer
that won't leave me with 4 Oyster cards with a balance on them. *Two I don't
mind as wife & I frequent London 2 or 3 times a year. *For this particular
trip, I would normally have bought four 3-Day travelcards good for zones 1-6
(all 6 zones out of necessity).


Given that (I think) a 3-day Travelcard was just priced at three times
a One Day Travelcard, and you can still buy the latter on paper, you
could just buy three of those each.


Another argument against buying 3-day Travelcards is that they no
longer exist - they were withdrawn at the beginning of the year.

Failing that, cash the Oyster cards in at the end and get a refund of
the deposit and balance.


The TfL website confirms that this is possible:
You can take your Oyster card to a Tube station ticket office for a refund of your unused ticket or travel
value and the £3 deposit.

(from http://tinyurl.com/37sd9zo )

Using Oyster PAYG might well work out a little cheaper for the OP, if
it turns out that he doesn't need zones 1-6 on all three days; or if
he doesn't need to travel during the morning peak. It certainly won't
cost any more than buying paper tickets - the only downsides are
having to visit a tube ticket office at your last station (though I'd
imagine the major rail termini and Heathrow are used to this kind of
transaction), and possibly being left over with some of our funny
English money.


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