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Thameslink programme to go ahead "in it's entirety"
Amongst a number of points covered in SoS Hammond's announcement this
morning was this one: ---quote--- Today, I can confirm we will fund and deliver the Thameslink programme in its entirety, virtually doubling the number of north-south trains running through central London at peak times. But the original programme for the rebuilding of London Bridge was always ambitious, with substantial risks around delivery, and operation of existing services, during construction. To reduce these risks, we have re-profiled the delivery of the programme to achieve completion in 2018. This will enable Network Rail to make further efficiencies to their design and delivery programme. ---/quote--- Source: http://www.dft.gov.uk/press/speeches...ammond20101125 So, it appears as though the whole shebang will go ahead as originally envisaged, i.e. including Key Output 2 (of which the extensive Bermondsey dive-unders on the approaches to London Bridge are a part, for instance). |
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Thameslink programme to go ahead "in it's entirety"
On Nov 25, 10:37*am, "Mizter T" wrote:
Amongst a number of points covered in SoS Hammond's announcement this morning was this one: ---quote--- Today, I can confirm we will fund and deliver the Thameslink programme in its entirety, virtually doubling the number of north-south trains running through central London at peak times. But the original programme for the rebuilding of London Bridge was always ambitious, with substantial risks around delivery, and operation of existing services, during construction. To reduce these risks, we have re-profiled the delivery of the programme to achieve completion in 2018. *This will enable Network Rail to make further efficiencies to their design and delivery programme. ---/quote--- Source:http://www.dft.gov.uk/press/speeches...ts/hammond2010... So, it appears as though the whole shebang will go ahead as originally envisaged, i.e. including Key Output 2 (of which the extensive Bermondsey dive-unders on the approaches to London Bridge are a part, for instance). Excellent news. And, given the circumstances, surprising. A good day for railways of the UK's Southeast, and especially London. |
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Thameslink programme to go ahead "in it's entirety"
"Mizter T" wrote:
Amongst a number of points covered in SoS Hammond's announcement this morning was this one: Today, I can confirm we will fund and deliver the Thameslink programme in its entirety, virtually doubling the number of north-south trains running through central London at peak times. But the original programme for the rebuilding of London Bridge was always ambitious, with substantial risks around delivery, and operation of existing services, during construction. To reduce these risks, we have re-profiled the delivery of the programme to achieve completion in 2018. This will enable Network Rail to make further efficiencies to their design and delivery programme. Source: http://www.dft.gov.uk/press/speeches...ammond20101125 So, it appears as though the whole shebang will go ahead as originally envisaged, i.e. including Key Output 2 (of which the extensive Bermondsey dive-unders on the approaches to London Bridge are a part, for instance). This is excellent news, and by far the most satisfying part of today's announcement. The Thameslink project has recently been overshadowed by its more glamorous relative, Crossrail, yet the economic and environmental benefits that Thameslink will deliver to London and the south east are no less significant. There was real concern worry that the high cost of (1) remodelling London Bridge to include additional though platforms and (2) the Bermondsey dive-unders could have caused the project to be curtailed. However, this budgetary problem has been solved by allowing an additional two years to complete the project. This spreads the cost over a greater number of financial years and allows more economic (and less disruptive) methods of construction to be used at London Bridge. All praise to the Thameslink project team who have succeeded in gaining Ministerial approval for the whole of this vital if somewhat unsexy project. |
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Thameslink programme to go ahead "in it's entirety"
In message , at 10:37:20 on
Thu, 25 Nov 2010, Mizter T remarked: Amongst a number of points covered in SoS Hammond's announcement this morning was this one: ---quote--- Today, I can confirm we will fund and deliver the Thameslink programme in its entirety Does that include the link-up with the GN line to Cambridge, or was that air-brushed from the scheme long ago? istr they were supposed to be lengthening platforms at Cambridge to take 12 cars, but I think they may have changed their mind and are doing an island instead. -- Roland Perry |
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Thameslink programme to go ahead "in it's entirety"
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Roland Perry wrote: istr they were supposed to be lengthening platforms at Cambridge to take 12 cars, but I think they may have changed their mind and are doing an island instead. Cambridge has had 12-car Class 365 services to Kings Cross in the morning peak for some time now. -roy |
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Thameslink programme to go ahead "in it's entirety"
In message , at 16:41:58 on Thu,
25 Nov 2010, Roy Badami remarked: istr they were supposed to be lengthening platforms at Cambridge to take 12 cars, but I think they may have changed their mind and are doing an island instead. Cambridge has had 12-car Class 365 services to Kings Cross in the morning peak for some time now. Isn't that being done by some sort of kludge, rather than lengthening both platforms 1 & 4 so that all trains could be 12-car, as was originally proposed? -- Roland Perry |
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Thameslink programme to go ahead "in it's entirety"
On 25/11/2010 16:51, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:41:58 on Thu, 25 Nov 2010, Roy Badami remarked: istr they were supposed to be lengthening platforms at Cambridge to take 12 cars, but I think they may have changed their mind and are doing an island instead. Cambridge has had 12-car Class 365 services to Kings Cross in the morning peak for some time now. Isn't that being done by some sort of kludge, rather than lengthening both platforms 1 & 4 so that all trains could be 12-car, as was originally proposed? The Island Platform at Cambridge is due to be opened in just over a year. They've possessions booked, and it is needed for the proposed 12 car service to Liverpool St, trains for which are already being produced. Jim |
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Thameslink programme to go ahead "in it's entirety"
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Thu, 25 Nov 2010, Jim Chisholm remarked: istr they were supposed to be lengthening platforms at Cambridge to take 12 cars, but I think they may have changed their mind and are doing an island instead. Cambridge has had 12-car Class 365 services to Kings Cross in the morning peak for some time now. Isn't that being done by some sort of kludge, rather than lengthening both platforms 1 & 4 so that all trains could be 12-car, as was originally proposed? The Island Platform at Cambridge is due to be opened in just over a year. They've possessions booked, and it is needed for the proposed 12 car service to Liverpool St, trains for which are already being produced. If both 1 & 4 were usable by 12-car trains, perhaps they wouldn't need such a long island. Do you know whether they've changed strategy, or will 1 & 4 & the island all be capable of 12-car? -- Roland Perry |
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Thameslink programme to go ahead "in it's entirety"
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Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 16:41:58 on Thu, Isn't that being done by some sort of kludge, rather than lengthening both platforms 1 & 4 so that all trains could be 12-car, as was originally proposed? What kind of kludge? I thought I read here that some work (not sure what) was done a while back to allow platform 1 to accommodate the 12-car trains. I don't think the 12-car trains straddle platforms 1 & 4, if that's what you mean? -roy |
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Thameslink programme to go ahead "in it's entirety"
In message , at 21:17:40 on Thu,
25 Nov 2010, Roy Badami remarked: Isn't that being done by some sort of kludge, rather than lengthening both platforms 1 & 4 so that all trains could be 12-car, as was originally proposed? What kind of kludge? I thought I read here that some work (not sure what) was done a while back to allow platform 1 to accommodate the 12-car trains. I don't think the 12-car trains straddle platforms 1 & 4, if that's what you mean? Yes, that's what I meant; but I haven't seen any positive indications either way (other than perhaps a lack of people commenting how they've seen a 12-car in Platform 1 that didn't foul the x-over). -- Roland Perry |
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