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In message , at 13:18:17 on
Sun, 28 Nov 2010, Neil Williams
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What's different about Milton Keynes - the only variation that would
qualify as broken is a countdown based on the timetable rather than
actual running.


It only ever shows actual departure times rather than "N minutes", but
I'm informed by a few people who should know about such things that
the timetable is *not* loaded so these are based on actual running.

So you see:-

5 Lakes Estate 10:15

but the 10:15 is a generated real-time time, not a timetabled one.

I class this as broken because it breaks the convention used
everywhere else, so is confusing. It also means you have to look at
your watch!


The signs in Nottingham have a time on them. For some reason I took this
photo a couple of weeks ago (on the route heading out of the City
towards Trent Bridge): http://yfrog.com/73zb3012j

It was probably to illustrate the number of services available. In the
end I got a Premier 51/52, which isn't even included on the sign!
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 13:41:55 +0000, Roland Perry
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The signs in Nottingham have a time on them. For some reason I took this
photo a couple of weeks ago (on the route heading out of the City
towards Trent Bridge): http://yfrog.com/73zb3012j


As I think others have posted, the usual convention is that if it's a
timetabled time, it is shown as the time, but if it's real-time it's
shown as a number of minutes.

Neil
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In message , at 14:04:26 on
Sun, 28 Nov 2010, Neil Williams
remarked:
As I think others have posted, the usual convention is that if it's a
timetabled time, it is shown as the time, but if it's real-time it's
shown as a number of minutes.


That's also for signs which show one or the other at different times of
day, or for different buses (depending on how well they are tracking the
buses at the time).

It sounds like the Milton Keynes ones show the time, always. But it's
going to be fairly obvious that it's not showing the timetable because
you can compare it to the timetable you are expecting and it's quite
likely to be a minute or two before or after at random.
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On Nov 28, 8:00*pm, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:04:26 on
Sun, 28 Nov 2010, Neil Williams
remarked:

As I think others have posted, the usual convention is that if it's a
timetabled time, it is shown as the time, but if it's real-time it's
shown as a number of minutes.


That's also for signs which show one or the other at different times of
day, or for different buses (depending on how well they are tracking the
buses at the time).

It sounds like the Milton Keynes ones show the time, always. But it's
going to be fairly obvious that it's not showing the timetable because
you can compare it to the timetable you are expecting and it's quite
likely to be a minute or two before or after at random.
--
Roland Perry


Maybe it's because in Milton Keynes, they've recognised that the
timetable is of absolutely no relevance. Buses sometimes turn up;
that's about all one can say, so something telling what time that may
happen is a bonus.
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