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Mention of Park and Ride prompts another question. My other half has heard
somewhere that if a station is advertised as Park and Ride (Haddenham,
Warwick Parkway), as opposed to Parkway (Didcot, Bristol) car parking is
required to be free. Is this the case?



Mon-Fri prices:

Haddenham £6.00 peak, £4.00 off-peak per day.

Warwick £6.50 peak, £4.00 off-peak per day.


Sat-Sun prices:

Both stations £4.00 per day.


Parking is free if your car is carrying three people who travel
onwards by train, and you arrive between 06:00 and 09:00 Mon-Fri. Just
ask the attendant for a "Car Share" voucher.


Right, so that knocks the "park and ride stations have free parking" theory
on the head :-)

£4/day or £6.50/day is bloody expensive on top of a train fare. Or maybe I'm
just a skinflint. Paying to park is something I try my best to avoid, even
if it means walking further - not only because I resent paying but even more
because I resent someone else deriving an income and making a profit from
it.

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"Mortimer" wrote:
"Bruce" wrote:
"Mortimer" wrote:
Mention of Park and Ride prompts another question. My other half has heard
somewhere that if a station is advertised as Park and Ride (Haddenham,
Warwick Parkway), as opposed to Parkway (Didcot, Bristol) car parking is
required to be free. Is this the case?


Mon-Fri prices:
Haddenham £6.00 peak, £4.00 off-peak per day.
Warwick £6.50 peak, £4.00 off-peak per day.

Sat-Sun prices:
Both stations £4.00 per day.

Parking is free if your car is carrying three people who travel
onwards by train, and you arrive between 06:00 and 09:00 Mon-Fri. Just
ask the attendant for a "Car Share" voucher.


Right, so that knocks the "park and ride stations have free parking" theory
on the head :-)



Indeed, but your posting was the first time I had heard that theory.


£4/day or £6.50/day is bloody expensive on top of a train fare. Or maybe I'm
just a skinflint. Paying to park is something I try my best to avoid, even
if it means walking further - not only because I resent paying but even more
because I resent someone else deriving an income and making a profit from
it.



Totally agree. But that's the way of the privatised railway - screw
every last penny (and pound) out of the passenger, and then some more.

I avoid parking at Chiltern stations and drive to Amersham, park in a
council car park and buy a Travelcard at Underground prices. Then I
usually get on a Chiltern train to Marylebone ... it saves me a lot of
money.

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On 03/02/2011 22:00, Mortimer wrote:

avoid, even if it means walking further - not only because I resent
paying but even more because I resent someone else deriving an income
and making a profit from it.


You use a service, and you pay for it. What's so strange about that?

Cheers

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On 03/02/2011 22:00, Mortimer wrote:

avoid, even if it means walking further - not only because I resent
paying but even more because I resent someone else deriving an income
and making a profit from it.


You use a service, and you pay for it. What's so strange about that?


In my brother's village there is a small, free car park. The Parish
Council have to pay VAT on the notional value of the parking service
they provide.

Use a free service and someone else may have to pay for it.

Sam
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On Mon, 07 Feb 2011 17:25:29 +0000, Sam Wilson
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In my brother's village there is a small, free car park. The

Parish
Council have to pay VAT on the notional value of the parking

service
they provide.


Never heard of that; I thought VAT was only charged on actual sales.

Does that happen anywhere else?

Neil

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"Neil Williams" wrote in message
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On Mon, 07 Feb 2011 17:25:29 +0000, Sam Wilson
wrote:
In my brother's village there is a small, free car park. The

Parish
Council have to pay VAT on the notional value of the parking

service
they provide.


Never heard of that; I thought VAT was only charged on actual sales.

Does that happen anywhere else?


When my flat management company "hired" a small one man clamping company,
because we weren't VAT registered we had to pay the VAT due on the "fines"
collected (I could never work out why the person being "fined" didn't have
to pay it).

tim


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"Neil Williams" wrote in message
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On Mon, 07 Feb 2011 17:25:29 +0000, Sam Wilson
wrote:
In my brother's village there is a small, free car park. The

Parish
Council have to pay VAT on the notional value of the parking

service
they provide.


Never heard of that; I thought VAT was only charged on actual sales.

Does that happen anywhere else?


When my flat management company "hired" a small one man clamping
company, because we weren't VAT registered we had to pay the VAT due
on the "fines" collected (I could never work out why the person being
"fined" didn't have to pay it).


That seems very odd -- if the firm's turnover is not large enough to
have to register for VAT, it should not be charged and does not need to
be paid to HMRC. And if the one man's clamping company was registered
for VAT, he should be responsible for including it in the fines and
paying the money over to HMRC.


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On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:26:59 -0000, "Recliner"
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"tim." wrote in message

"Neil Williams" wrote in message
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On Mon, 07 Feb 2011 17:25:29 +0000, Sam Wilson
wrote:
In my brother's village there is a small, free car park. The
Parish
Council have to pay VAT on the notional value of the parking
service
they provide.

Never heard of that; I thought VAT was only charged on actual sales.

Does that happen anywhere else?


When my flat management company "hired" a small one man clamping
company, because we weren't VAT registered we had to pay the VAT due
on the "fines" collected (I could never work out why the person being
"fined" didn't have to pay it).


That seems very odd -- if the firm's turnover is not large enough to
have to register for VAT, it should not be charged and does not need to
be paid to HMRC. And if the one man's clamping company was registered
for VAT, he should be responsible for including it in the fines and
paying the money over to HMRC.

ITYF the flat management company was doing the extorting with the man
in the van as their servant applying the clamps..
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