In article ,
(Peter Masson) wrote:

Meanwhile the northbound M11 was closed for 15 hours after an accident.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-12968479
I don't know how long it took to release vehicles trapped behind
the accident. No doubt many passengers missed planes at Stansted.

It was quite a pile up apparently. More at
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Home...ed-by-police-a
fter-M11-pile-up.htm

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 02:42:54PM +0100, Peter Masson wrote:

Meanwhile the northbound M11 was closed for 15 hours after an accident.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-12968479
I don't know how long it took to release vehicles trapped behind the
accident. No doubt many passengers missed planes at Stansted.

Are those "stuck" not eventually directed to go back the "wrong way" and
off at the first junction? Obviously you'd need some traffic plod at
the top of the slip road, which, being an *entrance* to the motorway is
not designed for people coming up it and onto the roundabout that is
typically at the top.

--
David Cantrell
Professor of Unvironmental Science
University of Human Progress

SB wrote:
Sadly there was yet another person hit by a train at Southall on
Monday evening (yesterday).

http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/co...c=669.msg87663

This is very sad - but why so many at Southall anyway? It does seem to
be a regular occurance.


You could probably draw some conclusions as to why by examining the
ethnic and socio-economic mix of the people affected.

In message
, SB
writes

This is very sad - but why so many at Southall anyway? It does seem to
be a regular occurance.

Today's "one under" was at Surbiton. I'm sure part of the reason is to
seek out a fast line to ensure instant despatch, but it's so unfair on
drivers.

Massive disruption across the SWT network this afternoon as a result,
including cancellations, diversions and late running of up to an hour.
SWT Dorking service cancelled, and Exeter/Salisbury services terminating
at Basingstoke. Even the Windsor line and Hounslow loop line were
affected. Some services not expected to return to normal until tomorrow.
--
Paul Terry

"Paul Terry" wrote in message
...
In message
, SB
writes

This is very sad - but why so many at Southall anyway? It does seem to
be a regular occurance.

Today's "one under" was at Surbiton. I'm sure part of the reason is to
seek out a fast line to ensure instant despatch, but it's so unfair on
drivers.

Massive disruption across the SWT network this afternoon as a result,
including cancellations, diversions and late running of up to an hour. SWT
Dorking service cancelled, and Exeter/Salisbury services terminating at
Basingstoke. Even the Windsor line and Hounslow loop line were affected.
Some services not expected to return to normal until tomorrow.
--
Paul Terry

2 yesterday.

"Paul Terry" wrote

Massive disruption across the SWT network this afternoon as a result,
including cancellations, diversions and late running of up to an hour. SWT
Dorking service cancelled, and Exeter/Salisbury services terminating at
Basingstoke. Even the Windsor line and Hounslow loop line were affected.

Presumably some Main Line trains diverted via Chertsey and Staines, getting
in the way of Windsor and Hounslow Loop.

Peter

On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 06:49:39PM +0100, Paul Terry wrote:
In message
, SB
writes
This is very sad - but why so many at Southall anyway? It does seem to
be a regular occurance.
Today's "one under" was at Surbiton. I'm sure part of the reason is to
seek out a fast line to ensure instant despatch, but it's so unfair on
drivers.

And not just on the drivers. It's just plain inconsiderate to
*everyone*: passengers, drivers, other railway staff, emergency
services.

If you want to kill yourself, do it at home with a sharp knife.

--
David Cantrell | Nth greatest programmer in the world

Planckton: n, the smallest possible living thing

In article ,
(David Cantrell) wrote:

*From:* David Cantrell
*Date:* Thu, 07 Apr 2011 12:55:46 +0100

On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 06:49:39PM +0100, Paul Terry wrote:
In message


,
SB writes
This is very sad - but why so many at Southall anyway? It does
seem to
be a regular occurance.
Today's "one under" was at Surbiton. I'm sure part of the reason
is to seek out a fast line to ensure instant despatch, but it's
so unfair on drivers.

And not just on the drivers. It's just plain inconsiderate to
*everyone*: passengers, drivers, other railway staff, emergency
services.

If you want to kill yourself, do it at home with a sharp knife.

--
David Cantrell | Nth greatest programmer in the world

Planckton: n, the smallest possible living thing


Yes, but it is particularly the drivers who may be affected badly and long
term by one-unders. Any witnesses may be affected to a lesser extent. For
people affected by the knock-on effect, such as delays to their journey,
it's more of a temporary inconvenience, however inconvenient it may be.

I agree that people shouldn't commit suicide in this way, but if they've
got to the state where they're going to kill themselves, they're probably
not thinking properly anyway.

Unfortunately, although jumping under a train is often thought of as a
quick sure way of going, it's rarely that. Many people survive, sometimes
with a lingering painful death a few hours, days or weeks later. Others
may survive minus various bits and pieces, but need permanent care. There
again, there are those who jump and walk away without a scratch, usually
to then go away and try again elsewhere.

Roger

On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 07:55:44AM -0500, wrote:

I agree that people shouldn't commit suicide in this way, but if they've
got to the state where they're going to kill themselves, they're probably
not thinking properly anyway.

Having dealt with a mentally ill neighbour, I find myself not giving a
**** how they're thinking if their actions are inconsiderate of others.
We should send their family the bill for cleaning up the mess.

Unfortunately, although jumping under a train is often thought of as a
quick sure way of going, it's rarely that ...

If I ever have to off myself, it'll be a sharp knife into my heart. It
really is the only way to be *sure* which is also relatively painless.

--
David Cantrell | Bourgeois reactionary pig

"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands,
hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -- H. L. Mencken