On May 7, 6:49*pm, 1506 wrote:
[snip]
Moreover, it is not TfL's job to operate rail service accross Hertford
County.

What's a county in the American state of North Carolina got to do with
this?!

On May 8, 9:07*pm, Mizter T wrote:
On May 7, 6:49*pm, 1506 wrote:

[snip]
Moreover, it is not TfL's job to operate rail service accross Hertford
County.

What's a county in the American state of North Carolina got to do with
this?!

You know very well to which Hertford County I refer.

On May 8, 9:23*pm, 1506 wrote:

On May 8, 9:07*pm, Mizter T wrote:

On May 7, 6:49*pm, 1506 wrote:

[snip]
Moreover, it is not TfL's job to operate rail service accross Hertford
County.

What's a county in the American state of North Carolina got to do with
this?!

You know very well to which Hertford County I refer.

But I don't know why you refer to it like that - this be Englandshire
after all.

On May 8, 9:33*pm, Mizter T wrote:
On May 8, 9:23*pm, 1506 wrote:

On May 8, 9:07*pm, Mizter T wrote:

On May 7, 6:49*pm, 1506 wrote:

[snip]
Moreover, it is not TfL's job to operate rail service accross Hertford
County.

What's a county in the American state of North Carolina got to do with
this?!

You know very well to which Hertford County I refer.

But I don't know why you refer to it like that - this be Englandshire
after all.

Technically accurate, thought provoking, and appeals to one who mildly
Aspergers. Why do our friends accross the Irish sea reverse the word
order (e.g. County Carlow) I wonder?

"1506" wrote

Why do our friends accross the Irish sea reverse the word
order (e.g. County Carlow) I wonder?

Not specifically Irish, but used where the county and a town in it have the
same name, and the shire suffix doesn't apply. The one English example is
County Durham.

Peter

On Mon, 9 May 2011 08:18:45 +0100
"Peter Masson" wrote:
Not specifically Irish, but used where the county and a town in it have the
same name, and the shire suffix doesn't apply. The one English example is
County Durham.

Not just counties - why Finchley Central instead of Central Finchley for
example?

B2003

On May 9, 9:47*am, wrote:
On Mon, 9 May 2011 08:18:45 +0100

"Peter Masson" wrote:
Not specifically Irish, but used where the county and a town in it have the
same name, and the shire suffix doesn't apply. The one English example is
County Durham.

Not just counties - why Finchley Central instead of Central Finchley for
example?

B2003

Well, I always assumed that it provides alphabetical grouping in
documentation (and in modern web uses, drop-down lists), and would be
very handy if all stations used that form:
Acton Central,
Acton East,
Acton Mainline,
Acton North,
Acton South,
Acton Town,
Acton West

....but it was usually down to the original railway company to do the
naming, hence the variations.

Jamie Thompson wrote:

On May 9, 9:47*am, wrote:
On Mon, 9 May 2011 08:18:45 +0100

"Peter Masson" wrote:
Not specifically Irish, but used where the county and a town in it have the
same name, and the shire suffix doesn't apply. The one English example is
County Durham.

Not just counties - why Finchley Central instead of Central Finchley for
example?

B2003

Well, I always assumed that it provides alphabetical grouping in
documentation (and in modern web uses, drop-down lists), and would be
very handy if all stations used that form:
Acton Central,
Acton East,
Acton Mainline,
Acton North,
Acton South,
Acton Town,
Acton West

...but it was usually down to the original railway company to do the
naming, hence the variations.

Early usage was often to put the bit after the town name in brackets.

E.g.: BIRMINGHAM (Snow Hill)

because as far as each company was concerned, it was e.g. their
BIRMINGHAM station.

Once the system is integrated, the brackets are dropped.
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On May 9, 11:12*am, Jamie Thompson wrote:
On May 9, 9:47*am, wrote:

On Mon, 9 May 2011 08:18:45 +0100

"Peter Masson" wrote:
Not specifically Irish, but used where the county and a town in it have the
same name, and the shire suffix doesn't apply. The one English example is
County Durham.

Not just counties - why Finchley Central instead of Central Finchley for
example?

B2003

Well, I always assumed that it provides alphabetical grouping in
documentation (and in modern web uses, drop-down lists), and would be
very handy if all stations used that form:
Acton Central,
Acton East,
Acton Mainline,
Acton North,
Acton South,
Acton Town,
Acton West

To a certain extent, I think that the usual convention may have been
that it depended on whether the station was actually named after a
place (for example, there are actually areas shown on the Ordnance
Survey map, not just stations, called North Acton, South Acton, East
Acton and West Acton), or whether the 'north' or 'central' or whatever
was simply added by the railway company to distinguish it from other
stations. Hence Finchley Central, because there isn't such a place as
Central Finchley, it's just the central station for Finchley; as
opposed to East Finchley, which is called that because there is
actually a place called East Finchley.

Then again, for all I know the areas of Acton may have taken their
name from the railways stations, so that might be complete rubbish!

...but it was usually down to the original railway company to do the
naming, hence the variations.

I'm sure there's at least an element of that.

Martin L

"Peter Masson" wrote:
Not specifically Irish, but used where the county and a town in it
have the same name, and the shire suffix doesn't apply. The one
English example is County Durham.

Durham was - until 1820 or so, I think, the County Palatine of Durham
(the princes in question being the bishops of Durham). About 98% sure
that's why the name has that form (it's many years since I spent time
grubbling through 16th century correspondence in the Lit. and Phil.
in Newcastle, but I'm pretty sure still that there were usages of
"County Durham" explicitly as a short form for the full title in
some of those - official - letters)

Not sure that there were actually railways within the County until some
years after the Civil Wars, though. Development was much faster north
of the Tyne.

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