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Old June 21st 11, 08:59 PM
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On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Robin9 wrote:

I won't vote for any Liberal Democrat candidate and I wouldn't vote for
Brian Paddick even if he weren't a Liberal Democrat.


Might i ask, at the risk of going firmly OT, what your objection to
Paddick is?

Tuffey's advocacy of express buses is interesting - at least to me -
because I have long thought that the massive expansion of bus services
in the outer suburbs in recent years has been misconceived. Far more
relevant to the transport requirements of most Londoners would be
express buses.

Travelling by bus in London is slow and frustrating, partly because the
roads have been sabotaged, partly because buses are large and clumsy and
partly because buses have to stop so frequently. On judicially selected
routes, express buses could be a huge improvement over normal buses.


I hope the selection won't be judicial. Judicious, perhaps, but i'd rather
it was made by transport planners than judges!

It would definitely be interesting, though. The outer suburbs are the
areas where car use is highest, but also perhaps where it is least
problematic - there are more roads and fewer people.

Anyway, in inner or outer suburbs, where are these buses going to go? Into
town, like the existing railway lines? Or to local centres? His site:

http://miketuffrey.com/mike-tuffrey-...lan/transport/

merely says "Run express bus routes at peak commuter times, to speed
people to work, and more orbital routes round London to relieve pressure".

Mr. Tuffey's idea about municipal bonds frightens me. This is a recipe
for bankruptcy. Issuing bonds is a just another way of going into debt.


Presumably, the GLA already has ways of getting into debt - can it borrow
from banks? Might bonds be preferable to that? Or would they be used in
addition to, rather than instead of, loans?

tom

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Don't believe his lies.
I've never liked the man. I first heard about him when was a senior police officer in Lambeth. He was in the news quite a lot and I got the impression that this was by design. He got a lot of publicity by adopting a tolerant policy towards the drugs trade and he was not averse to being interviewed about this on the radio.

Later he resigned from the police force and again secured masses of publicity. He was soon announced as the Liberal Democrat candidate for the Mayoral election. His campaign seemed to consist mainly of making some rather obvious snide remarks about the other two parties. He had nothing new or constructive to say about the two big issues the Mayor Of London has the means to tackle: housing and transport. I sensed that the main reason he wanted to be Mayor was to be able to settle an old score with Ian Blair.

All in all I formed the opinion that Brian Paddick was a publicity-seeking, self-serving weasel.

Re judicial instead of judicious: Touche! A sloppy mistake, the result of posting hurriedly.
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On 21/06/2011 21:59, Robin9 wrote:

I've never liked the man. I first heard about him when was a senior
police officer in Lambeth. He was in the news quite a lot and I got the
impression that this was by design. He got a lot of publicity by
adopting a tolerant policy towards the drugs trade and he was not averse
to being interviewed about this on the radio.

Later he resigned from the police force and again secured masses of
publicity. He was soon announced as the Liberal Democrat candidate for
the Mayoral election. His campaign seemed to consist mainly of making
some rather obvious snide remarks about the other two parties. He had
nothing new or constructive to say about the two big issues the Mayor Of
London has the means to tackle: housing and transport. I sensed that the
main reason he wanted to be Mayor was to be able to settle an old score
with Ian Blair.

All in all I formed the opinion that Brian Paddick was a
publicity-seeking, self-serving weasel.


So what we need is a politician who doesn't want publicity, campaigns on
something other than "well at least I'm not him --", has real answers
to complex and long-standing problems, has no grudges, and is not a
self-serving weasel.

Could such a person actually exist on a non-trivial stage in a modern
popular democracy?

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On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 22:58:21 +0100
Arthur Figgis wrote:
Could such a person actually exist on a non-trivial stage in a modern
popular democracy?


Probably not. Most of the public are dumb - they don't listen to the arguments
on both sides and weigh up the options, they just go with who they like or
whoever "feels" right. Whatever the hell that means. You could have the worlds
greatest economic genius , guaranteed to sort out the economy , but if he
had a dull personality he'd almost certainly lose against a cheap showman like
Blair or a talking head on a stick like Cameron.

B2003

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On 21/06/2011 21:59, Robin9 wrote:

I've never liked the man. I first heard about him when was a senior
police officer in Lambeth. He was in the news quite a lot and I got the
impression that this was by design. He got a lot of publicity by
adopting a tolerant policy towards the drugs trade and he was not averse
to being interviewed about this on the radio.

Later he resigned from the police force and again secured masses of
publicity. He was soon announced as the Liberal Democrat candidate for
the Mayoral election. His campaign seemed to consist mainly of making
some rather obvious snide remarks about the other two parties. He had
nothing new or constructive to say about the two big issues the Mayor Of
London has the means to tackle: housing and transport. I sensed that the
main reason he wanted to be Mayor was to be able to settle an old score
with Ian Blair.

All in all I formed the opinion that Brian Paddick was a
publicity-seeking, self-serving weasel.


So what we need is a politician who doesn't want publicity, campaigns on
something other than "well at least I'm not him --", has real answers
to complex and long-standing problems, has no grudges, and is not a
self-serving weasel.

Could such a person actually exist on a non-trivial stage in a modern
popular democracy?

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What we need is a public-minded individual who recognises that publicity is useful but is not an end it itself, and who has analysed both the issues facing London and what powers the Mayor really has and who has consequently worked out what issues the Mayor should concentrate on.

Does such a paragon exist? Of course. We have innumerable good, conscientious people in this country. Unfortunately, because they are good and conscientious, they will never be adopted by the established political parties whose members want candidates who share their own mean-spirited prejudices and priorities.

What we do not want is a self-serving professional politician who went into politics with no intention of working to make life better for the people but instead merely to further his career, to line his pockets and to indulge his prejudices.
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Robin9 wrote:

What we do not want is a self-serving professional politician who went
into politics with no intention of working to make life better for the
people but instead merely to further his career, to line his pockets and
to indulge his prejudices.



So what you are saying is that Brian Paddick is no different from any
other self-serving professional politician who went into politics with
no intention of working to make life better for the people but instead
merely to further their career, to line their pockets and to indulge
their prejudices.

I think there is another reason why you don't like him. Perhaps it is
time for you to come out of the closet and tell us what it is?



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First, why do you believe there is another reason I don't like Brian Paddick?

Second, why have you failed to understand that the paragraph you quoted was a generalisation and was not exclusively about Brian Paddick?

Third, if you are a Brian Paddick admirer, please put forward some arguments on his behalf.
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On 22/06/2011 17:54, Robin9 wrote:
Arthur Figgis;120738 Wrote:
On 21/06/2011 21:59, Robin9 wrote:
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I've never liked the man. I first heard about him when was a senior
police officer in Lambeth. He was in the news quite a lot and I got
the
impression that this was by design. He got a lot of publicity by
adopting a tolerant policy towards the drugs trade and he was not
averse
to being interviewed about this on the radio.

Later he resigned from the police force and again secured masses of
publicity. He was soon announced as the Liberal Democrat candidate for
the Mayoral election. His campaign seemed to consist mainly of making
some rather obvious snide remarks about the other two parties. He had
nothing new or constructive to say about the two big issues the Mayor
Of
London has the means to tackle: housing and transport. I sensed that
the
main reason he wanted to be Mayor was to be able to settle an old
score
with Ian Blair.

All in all I formed the opinion that Brian Paddick was a
publicity-seeking, self-serving weasel.-

So what we need is a politician who doesn't want publicity, campaigns on

something other than "well at least I'm not him --", has real answers
to complex and long-standing problems, has no grudges, and is not a
self-serving weasel.

Could such a person actually exist on a non-trivial stage in a modern
popular democracy?

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK


What we need is a public-minded individual who recognises that publicity
is useful but is not an end it itself,


So the voters wouldn't have heard of him, while they would all know the
bloke off the telly.

and who has analysed both the
issues facing London and what powers the Mayor really has and who has
consequently worked out what issues the Mayor should concentrate on.


While the person is working out the issues, his evil opponent is telling
the world how he bites the heads off kittens, and the mud sticks (if it
didn't, people wouldn't throw it).

Does such a paragon exist? Of course. We have innumerable good,
conscientious people in this country. Unfortunately, because they are
good and conscientious, they will never be adopted by the established
political parties whose members want candidates who share their own
mean-spirited prejudices and priorities.


More likely that such a person couldn't survive. Would a "good,
conscientious" person even be willing push themselves forwards at the
right opportunity (see any committee in human history)? Would they want
to put their family through it?


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Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK
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