The clock on the validator at Kings Cross WAGN platforms 9-11 is 4
houra fast.. so if you try to use your prepay between Finsbury Park
amd Kings Cross on WAGN it will create two unresolved journeys, whivh
charged mr £10.20,, No ticket office staff seem to know how to sort
this out....

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The clock on the validator at Kings Cross WAGN platforms 9-11 is 4
houra fast.. so if you try to use your prepay between Finsbury Park
amd Kings Cross on WAGN it will create two unresolved journeys, whivh
charged mr £10.20,, No ticket office staff seem to know how to sort
this out....

Good entertainment on the 16:59 FP to Letchworth tonight. Gripper on
board gets handed an Oyster by passenger sitting opposite me. Passenger
does not possess English as his native tongue. Gripper says "Got the bit
with it" in not exactly perfectly clear grammar. Passenger looks
confused. "Got the bit with it" Gripper tries again, only this time
louder. Passenger shakes his head. "Where you going?" our perfectly
consumer friendly trained Gripper demands. Passenger responds with
something that starts with "New" but ends with "mumble". [1] Gripper
hands back the Oyster and goes in search of his next victim.

So what was "the bit with it" ?

When will WAGN Gripper's be able to read Oysters?

Why should I be willing to pay a three pound deposit for an Oyster when
it is going to save LUL a fortune? (But not it seems yet, WAGN.)

[1] New "mumble" transpired into being Oakleigh Park. Don't ask me!

--
Bob Adams (email to )

Bob Adams wrote:

When will WAGN Gripper's be able to read Oysters?

The ones on the Chingford-Liverpool Street line had readers about a
month ago at least. (Though I guess they may not *all* have them...)

On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 22:39:12 +0000, Bob Adams
wrote:


So what was "the bit with it" ?

The Record Card issued with the Oyster when last topped up.
When will WAGN Gripper's be able to read Oysters?

When they have hand held checkers.
Why should I be willing to pay a three pound deposit for an Oyster when
it is going to save LUL a fortune? (But not it seems yet, WAGN.)
Because pre-pay will save you money on singles. And if you want a 7
day travelcard on Oyster you'll be able to renew over the internet or
at a ticket machine....

Rob.
--
rob at robertwoolley dot co dot uk

In message , Robert Woolley
writes
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 22:39:12 +0000, Bob Adams
wrote:


So what was "the bit with it" ?

The Record Card issued with the Oyster when last topped up.

Is it compulsory to have it with you? And what if you renew via the
internet?

When will WAGN Gripper's be able to read Oysters?

When they have hand held checkers.

Get away!

Why should I be willing to pay a three pound deposit for an Oyster when
it is going to save LUL a fortune? (But not it seems yet, WAGN.)
Because pre-pay will save you money on singles. And if you want a 7
day travelcard on Oyster you'll be able to renew over the internet or
at a ticket machine....

Still doesn't answer why LUL/TfL are charging a deposit on the card (or
why passengers are willing to pay it.)

--
Bob Adams (email to )

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:16:03 +0000, Bob Adams wrote:

Still doesn't answer why LUL/TfL are charging a deposit on the card (or
why passengers are willing to pay it.)

There is a precedent; Milton Keynes Council operate a 5 quid deposit
scheme for their smartcards - including seasons. MK Metro charge an
additional fiver on the first ticket, which is non-refundable (presumably
to encourage you to keep the card and use it again in the future, even if
not immediately, rather than returning it).

Neil

Bob Adams wrote:

In message , Robert Woolley
writes
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 22:39:12 +0000, Bob Adams
wrote:


So what was "the bit with it" ?

The Record Card issued with the Oyster when last topped up.

Is it compulsory to have it with you? And what if you renew via the
internet?

Then you don't get one, so there is no way they can make it compulsory.

When will WAGN Gripper's be able to read Oysters?

When they have hand held checkers.

Get away!

Some have, as I said.

Why should I be willing to pay a three pound deposit for an Oyster when
it is going to save LUL a fortune? (But not it seems yet, WAGN.)
Because pre-pay will save you money on singles. And if you want a 7
day travelcard on Oyster you'll be able to renew over the internet or
at a ticket machine....

Still doesn't answer why LUL/TfL are charging a deposit on the card (or
why passengers are willing to pay it.)

If you don't like it, take it back and get your £3 back then.

Bob Adams wrote:
In message , Robert Woolley
writes

On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 22:39:12 +0000, Bob Adams
wrote:
(snip)
Why should I be willing to pay a three pound deposit for an Oyster when
it is going to save LUL a fortune? (But not it seems yet, WAGN.)

Because pre-pay will save you money on singles. And if you want a 7
day travelcard on Oyster you'll be able to renew over the internet or
at a ticket machine....


Still doesn't answer why LUL/TfL are charging a deposit on the card (or
why passengers are willing to pay it.)

Presumably so they don't lose out if you have an unresolved journey that
you can't be bothered to resolve and you have no credit left to pay up?
Also to stop people accumulating piles of Oyster cards.

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7

Bob Adams wrote the following in:


Why should I be willing to pay a three pound deposit for an Oyster
when it is going to save LUL a fortune? (But not it seems yet,
WAGN.)

Because otherwise you'd get people taking the **** and demanding new
oyster cards all the time.

--
message by Robin May, or at least that's what the headers say.
Enjoy the Routemaster while you still can.

Crime is confusing.