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Graeme Wall September 21st 11 06:50 AM

WCML classic service after HS2
 
On 21/09/2011 01:34, Nobody wrote:
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 08:02:56 +0100, Graeme Wall
wrote:

On 19/09/2011 07:42, Roland Perry wrote:
In , at 16:23:49 on
Sat, 17 Sep 2011, remarked:
There is clearly something to be said for Electric/trolley buses.
They are still very much in use in Boston, MA and San Francisco, CA.

And Seattle, WA and Metro Vancouver, BC.

And much of Eastern Europe.


And Mendoza in Argentina. May be unique in Southern South America.


With (at least some of their fleet) about 80 recycled Flyers from
Vancouver, BC.

They were shipped to a port in Chile, then over the Trans-Andean
Highway.


Which is famed in cycling circles as having the longest downhill section
in the world, something like 60 miles continuous downgrade travelling
west to east.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolleybuses_in_Mendoza


Interesting, they were still using the Solingen vehicles last time I was
there.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

[email protected] September 22nd 11 01:35 PM

WCML classic service after HS2
 
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at 16:23:49
on Sat, 17 Sep 2011, Nobody remarked:
There is clearly something to be said for Electric/trolley buses.
They are still very much in use in Boston, MA and San Francisco, CA.


And Seattle, WA and Metro Vancouver, BC.


And much of Eastern Europe.


Europe generally. Switzerland has quite a few systems. We may be one of the
few European countries without trolleybuses in public use.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

[email protected] September 22nd 11 01:35 PM

WCML classic service after HS2
 
In article ,
(Graeme Wall) wrote:

On 19/09/2011 07:42, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:23:49 on
Sat, 17 Sep 2011, Nobody remarked:
There is clearly something to be said for Electric/trolley buses.
They are still very much in use in Boston, MA and San Francisco, CA.

And Seattle, WA and Metro Vancouver, BC.


And much of Eastern Europe.


And Mendoza in Argentina. May be unique in Southern South America.


Did Brazil get rid of its systems? Rio and Sao Paulo certainly had them.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

[email protected] September 22nd 11 01:35 PM

WCML classic service after HS2
 
In article ,
(Charles Ellson) wrote:

Somewhere in France IIRC where they did not want overhead wires strung
up across a historic square, distinct from systems with no OHLE at
all. Not forgetting shunting batteries as found with some trolleybuses
(or at least one system which also has part-time diesel generators on
the trolleybuses).


London trolleybuses had traction batteries. I can't say I ever saw them in
use, mind.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Roland Perry September 22nd 11 03:21 PM

WCML classic service after HS2
 
In message , at 08:35:23
on Thu, 22 Sep 2011, remarked:
There is clearly something to be said for Electric/trolley buses.
They are still very much in use in Boston, MA and San Francisco, CA.

And Seattle, WA and Metro Vancouver, BC.


And much of Eastern Europe.


Europe generally. Switzerland has quite a few systems.


My picture of one in Geneva:
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/25005195

Also in Lausanne.
--
Roland Perry

Bob September 22nd 11 05:44 PM

WCML classic service after HS2
 
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 08:35:23
on Thu, 22 Sep 2011, remarked:
There is clearly something to be said for Electric/trolley buses.
They are still very much in use in Boston, MA and San Francisco, CA.

And Seattle, WA and Metro Vancouver, BC.

And much of Eastern Europe.


Europe generally. Switzerland has quite a few systems.


My picture of one in Geneva:
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/25005195

Also in Lausanne.


In more Swiss cities than I can immediately bring to mind. The 3-section
buses in Zürich have a diesel that can power them off the wires at moderate
speeds (I've stood next to one that got gapped at a tram/trolleybus
crossing and fired up the donk to proceed).

Robin

Neil Williams September 22nd 11 06:38 PM

WCML classic service after HS2
 
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:21:50 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:
Also in Lausanne.


And the Riviera (Vevey to Villeneuve).

Neil

--
Neil Williams, Milton Keynes, UK

funkyoldcortina September 27th 11 09:27 AM

WCML classic service after HS2
 
On 17/09/11 16:31, 77002 wrote:
Often wondered if there is an application for a streetcar/tram or
electric/trolly bus that runs under wires where practical, but
utilizes batteries for stretches where wires are not practical, or
unsightly.


Who says it has to be a streetcar/tram.

How about a regular private car? Battery & charge points in cities, but out
on the motorway put a wire mesh over the road and extend a pickup pole to
pick up the juice, kind of like what happens with dodgems or trolleybuses.
Charge and power at the same time.

Return current could go to a metal plate down the centre of the lane.


[email protected] September 27th 11 10:09 AM

WCML classic service after HS2
 
On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 10:27:49 +0100
funkyoldcortina wrote:
How about a regular private car? Battery & charge points in cities, but out
on the motorway put a wire mesh over the road and extend a pickup pole to
pick up the juice, kind of like what happens with dodgems or trolleybuses.
Charge and power at the same time.


It would have to be a bloody long pole if HGVs and double deckers are to fit
under the mesh.

B2003


John C September 29th 11 05:15 PM

WCML classic service after HS2
 


wrote in message
...
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 08:43:07 +0100, "John C"
wrote:

electric/trolly bus that runs under wires where practical, but
utilizes batteries for stretches where wires are not practical, or
unsightly.


Route number 3 in Gent is a trolley bus. I've seen them run short
stretches
away from the wires when going to or from the depot so they must have
batteries.

John

That system closed in 2009 .

G.Harman


I didn't know that! Presume they now use normal buses. The trolley buses
were ancient and I recall they were taken out of service for many months
some years ago. I did note on a trip last year that they are digging up the
town centre, the number 40 tram route was cut in two.

John



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