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Old October 2nd 11, 01:13 PM posted to cam.misc,uk.transport.london,uk.railway
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Default ticket from Shelford to Finsbury Park

On Oct 2, 8:33Â*am, Roland Perry wrote:
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15:40:42 on Sat, 1 Oct 2011, Francis Davey remarked:

What I wasn't sure about is if + allows you to start (or end) at an
underground station. Ie. for the last leg of the journey to be made by
underground (at least in theory - of course I'd probably just use my
oyster for this bit).


How does one deduce that the Victoria Line is "permitted"?


This was explained in the old "Part A" of the Fares Manual, not to be
confused with Section A of the Routing Guide!

http://www.atoc.org/about-atoc/rail-...routeing-guide

The old Part A is also not supplied with the CD-ROM "Avantix Traveller"
available for a tenner from HMSO. I've not found any evidence that it's
online at all at the moment, but presumably ticket sellers have access
to it in some form. The friendliest ticket seller I found was the one at
Meldreth station (but be quick, there are plans to turn it, and many
similar, into unmanned stations).


Going OT, FCC have been quoted in the local rag that they do not
intend to follow McNulty's recommendation regarding destaffing
stations. Four stations on the GN line had been proposed for
destaffing, namely Arlesey, Sandy, Ashwell and Morden and Meldreth.


Anyway, here's an extract from Part A of Jan 2008 (NFM98 for the geeks)
which was the last published in that form online, afaict.

"Ticket prices in Section C, for journeys routed for travel ’via
London’ and marked with the symbol + include the cost of
transfer across London by London Underground, DLR or First
Capital Connect train services on the Thameslink route. Tickets
displaying the ’cross-London’ marker â€*, are valid for travel
between any two of the following stations appropriate to the
route of the through rail journey being made.

Â*Aldgate Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*Finsbury Park Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Queens Park
Â*Amersham Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Greenwich Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Richmond
Â*Baker Street Â* Â* Â* Â* Highbury & Islington Â* Â* Â*Seven Sisters
Â*Balham Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Kensington Olympia Â* Â* Â* Â*Southwark
Â*Bank Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Kentish Town Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*Stratford
Â*Barking Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*King’s Cross/St Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Tottenham Hale
Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Pancras
Â*Blackfriars Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*Lancaster Gate Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*Tower Hill
Â*Blackhorse Road Â* Â* Â*Lewisham Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*Upminster
Â*Cannon Street Â* Â* Â* Â*Limehouse Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Vauxhall
Â*Charing Cross Â* Â* Â* Â*Liverpool Street Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*Victoria
Â*Ealing Broadway Â* Â* Â*London Bridge Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Walthamstow Ctl
Â*Edgware Road Â* Â* Â* Â* Marylebone Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*Waterloo
Â*Elephant & Castle Â* Â*Moorgate Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*West Brompton
Â*Embankment Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* New Cross Gate Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*West Ham
Â*Euston Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Old Street Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*West Hampstead
Â*Euston Square Â* Â* Â* Â*Paddington Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*Wimbledon
Â*Farringdon

Am I right in thinking that because there's a ticket via CBG it must
be "Any Permitted"?


There are two options from Finsbury Park to Cambridge: +London[1] and
Not-London. Any Permitted just means you can use either/both. The "Not
London" is also sold separately, of course.

[1] Where the + means "including underground transfers.
--
Roland Perry


Thanks for finding the reference. I have an old paper NFM which I have
kept for historical interest, which was my original source of info.

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