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Paul Terry[_2_] October 6th 11 10:26 AM

London Overground Expansion
 
In message , d
writes

Obviously this isn't TfLs fault but I can't help wondering
why for example North Acton on the central line was built about 300 metres
away from where the NLL crosses it instead of building a station there.


Rivalry between competing private companies.

North Action was on the New North Main Line - a joint scheme of the
Great Central and Great Western to speed up their access from the
midlands to London.

The North London Line, on the other hand, was essentially under the
control of their great rivals - the LNWR and the Midland Railway.

--
Paul Terry

[email protected] October 6th 11 10:40 AM

London Overground Expansion
 
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 11:16:09 +0100
"Paul Scott" wrote:
"Dr. Sunil" wrote in message
...

Also it would have been nice if there were platforms reinstated on the
mainline (maybe Lea Valley tracks only) almost directly beneath
Shoreditch High Street, as the ELL has no interchange with the Central
line or with National Express.


The lack of a Central Line interchange was intentional, it was decided early
on that an interchange with Crossrail at Whitechapel would be better for
distributing passengers more evenly.


Ie making their life easier instead of doing something for the benefit of
the passengers. Yup, that sounds about right.

B2003


[email protected] October 6th 11 10:40 AM

London Overground Expansion
 
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 11:26:38 +0100
Paul Terry wrote:
In message , d
writes

Obviously this isn't TfLs fault but I can't help wondering
why for example North Acton on the central line was built about 300 metres
away from where the NLL crosses it instead of building a station there.


Rivalry between competing private companies.


Figures.

B2003



Tim Roll-Pickering October 6th 11 10:46 AM

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Paul Scott wrote:

The lack of a Central Line interchange was intentional, it was decided
early on that an interchange with Crossrail at Whitechapel would be better
for distributing passengers more evenly.


Isn't Shoreditch High Street positioned so that an interchange could be
built if future generations deem it necessary and possible?



Paul Scott[_3_] October 6th 11 11:51 AM

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"Tim Roll-Pickering" wrote in message
...
Paul Scott wrote:

The lack of a Central Line interchange was intentional, it was decided
early on that an interchange with Crossrail at Whitechapel would be
better for distributing passengers more evenly.


Isn't Shoreditch High Street positioned so that an interchange could be
built if future generations deem it necessary and possible?


That's definitely been mentioned, because they expect significantly altered
loadings on the Central after Crossrail opens.

Paul


Basil Jet[_2_] October 6th 11 02:00 PM

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On 2011\10\06 11:40, d wrote:
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 11:16:09 +0100
"Paul wrote:
"Dr. wrote in message
...

Also it would have been nice if there were platforms reinstated on the
mainline (maybe Lea Valley tracks only) almost directly beneath
Shoreditch High Street, as the ELL has no interchange with the Central
line or with National Express.


The lack of a Central Line interchange was intentional, it was decided early
on that an interchange with Crossrail at Whitechapel would be better for
distributing passengers more evenly.


Ie making their life easier instead of doing something for the benefit of
the passengers. Yup, that sounds about right.


How is opening an extra station on one of the most crowded parts of the
network a good idea? They made passive provision for a Central Line
station, that was the right thing to do.

[email protected] October 6th 11 02:26 PM

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On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 15:00:17 +0100
Basil Jet wrote:
How is opening an extra station on one of the most crowded parts of the
network a good idea? They made passive provision for a Central Line
station, that was the right thing to do.


Yes , good point. And taking that further - Oxford Street is very crowded so
lets get rid of the central line interchange there and make everyone walk from
Bond Street. Sorted.

B2003


Paul Scott[_3_] October 6th 11 03:57 PM

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"BumYoghurt" wrote in message
...

The circular route that is planned is a joke, as people mentioned, you
need to change at Clapham Junction (the LO platform is a joke there too,
covered in weeds, even after they closed it for 4 weeks for
maintenance). You'll probably be dropped from Crystal Palace/Surrey
Quays at Clapham on platform 17, leaving a 1-2 minutes walk to platform
2 for the LO interchange.


But they didn't close for maintenance of platform 1, the closure was for
double tracking of the approach tracks.

You definitely won't end up in P17 from the SLL, because there is no rail
connection. The SLL service will run into a new platform 2, which will be
the current platform 2 extended out by one track width over half its length,
at the Wandsworth end. The WLL will run from the existing platform face,
which will be renumbered as P1. I'd expect that resurfacing of the whole
platform, and reopening the second set of stairs, will be done once the work
actually starts at the station....

Paul S


Neil Williams October 6th 11 04:59 PM

London Overground Expansion
 
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 10:40:31 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:
Figures.


The NYC Subway is as bad...

Neil

--
Neil Williams, Milton Keynes, UK

Paul Terry[_2_] October 6th 11 06:01 PM

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In message , Paul Scott
writes

The SLL service will run into a new platform 2, which will be the
current platform 2 extended out by one track width over half its
length, at the Wandsworth end. The WLL will run from the existing
platform face, which will be renumbered as P1.


Handy diagram he

http://www.sucs.org/~cmckenna/diagra..._2a_and_2b.png

It describes the SLL platform as 2b and the WLL as 2a, but the latter
may well be renumbered as 1, as there is no hope of getting the original
platform 1 back in service.

The important thing is that there is easy and step-free interchange
between the two segments of the orbital route.
--
Paul Terry


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