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Just a bit furious as to why they won't extend the London Overground to Streatham- especially when no new track needs to be built. Crystal Palace to Clapham Junction would join up Balham, Wandsworth and Streatham Hill/Common and all would be well with the world.

Thoughts?

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On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 11:16:49 +0100
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Just a bit furious as to why they won't extend the London Overground to
Streatham- especially when no new track needs to be built. Crystal
Palace to Clapham Junction would join up Balham, Wandsworth and
Streatham Hill/Common and all would be well with the world.


I think they are planning on making it circular at some point no?

Thoughts?


Yes, its a pity it doesn't share stations with the central , piccadilly and
northern lines which it crosses. Then it may be genuinely useful to a lot
more people.

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On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 11:16:49 +0100
BumYoghurt wrote:
Just a bit furious as to why they won't extend the London Overground to
Streatham- especially when no new track needs to be built. Crystal
Palace to Clapham Junction would join up Balham, Wandsworth and
Streatham Hill/Common and all would be well with the world.


I think they are planning on making it circular at some point no?


Sort of, depending upon your definition of circular - phase 2, due to open
in December 2012, will add a new branch to the East London Line from Surrey
Quays to Clapham Jn (via Queens Rd Peckham, Peckham Rye, Denmark Hill,
Clapham High St, Wandsworth Rd, then Clapham Jn). Trains won't actually run
through onto the West London Line though - pax will need to change trains at
Clapham Jn if they want to head to say Kensington Olympia (this change will
be v easy though).

There are I think various thoughts about further London Overground services
south of the river, specifically from Crystal Palace via Streatham to
Clapham Jn, but nothing's imminent on that front.


Thoughts?


Yes, its a pity it doesn't share stations with the central , piccadilly
and
northern lines which it crosses. Then it may be genuinely useful to a lot
more people.


Clapham High Street to Clapham North (Northern line) is a pretty easy
interchange.

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"BumYoghurt" wrote in message ...

First time lurker, first time poster.

Just a bit furious as to why they won't extend the London Overground to
Streatham- especially when no new track needs to be built. Crystal
Palace to Clapham Junction would join up Balham, Wandsworth and
Streatham Hill/Common and all would be well with the world.

Thoughts?


There are already 4 Southern trains an hour between Crystal Palace and
Clapham Junction so I am not sure why you would need LO running on that
section as well?

Peter Smyth

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On 2011\10\05 18:27, Peter Smyth wrote:
"BumYoghurt" wrote in message ...

First time lurker, first time poster.

Just a bit furious as to why they won't extend the London Overground to
Streatham- especially when no new track needs to be built. Crystal
Palace to Clapham Junction would join up Balham, Wandsworth and
Streatham Hill/Common and all would be well with the world.

Thoughts?


There are already 4 Southern trains an hour between Crystal Palace and
Clapham Junction so I am not sure why you would need LO running on that
section as well?


Because being on the tube map would put up the value of his house.


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On 2011\10\05 18:27, Peter Smyth wrote:


There are already 4 Southern trains an hour between Crystal Palace and
Clapham Junction so I am not sure why you would need LO running on that
section as well?


Because being on the tube map would put up the value of his house.


....and everyone knows that travelling in a 8/10/12 car Electrostar with
loads of seats, isn't anything like as much fun as travelling in a 4 car
Electrostar with loads of standing space.

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On Oct 5, 11:16*am, BumYoghurt
wrote:
First time lurker, first time poster.

Just a bit furious as to why they won't extend the London Overground to
Streatham- especially when no new track needs to be built. Crystal
Palace to Clapham Junction would join up Balham, Wandsworth and
Streatham Hill/Common and all would be well with the world.

Thoughts?

--
BumYoghurt


There was once a plan to link the East London Railway (as was) with
the Lea Valley Line somewhere between Bethnal Green and Cambridge
Heath.

Also it would have been nice if there were platforms reinstated on the
mainline (maybe Lea Valley tracks only) almost directly beneath
Shoreditch High Street, as the ELL has no interchange with the Central
line or with National Express.
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"Mizter T" wrote:
Yes, its a pity it doesn't share stations with the central , piccadilly
and
northern lines which it crosses. Then it may be genuinely useful to a lot
more people.


Clapham High Street to Clapham North (Northern line) is a pretty easy
interchange.


I was thinking more of the NLL where it whizzes past a load of tube lines
without stopping. Obviously this isn't TfLs fault but I can't help wondering
why for example North Acton on the central line was built about 300 metres
away from where the NLL crosses it instead of building a station there.
But then it doesn't even interchange with the piccadilly line which also
crosses it which is Gold standard ****wittedness on the part of the original
builders of both lines.

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There are already 4 Southern trains an hour between Crystal Palace and
Clapham Junction so I am not sure why you would need LO running on that
section as well?

Peter Smyth
Cleaner, bigger nicer trains- AFAIK you can't get a train from CP to Streatham Common either, a new bit of track would have to probably be built for that though, through the Streatham Hill train yard.

The circular route that is planned is a joke, as people mentioned, you need to change at Clapham Junction (the LO platform is a joke there too, covered in weeds, even after they closed it for 4 weeks for maintenance). You'll probably be dropped from Crystal Palace/Surrey Quays at Clapham on platform 17, leaving a 1-2 minutes walk to platform 2 for the LO interchange.
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"Dr. Sunil" wrote in message
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Also it would have been nice if there were platforms reinstated on the
mainline (maybe Lea Valley tracks only) almost directly beneath
Shoreditch High Street, as the ELL has no interchange with the Central
line or with National Express.


The lack of a Central Line interchange was intentional, it was decided early
on that an interchange with Crossrail at Whitechapel would be better for
distributing passengers more evenly.

Paul S



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