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On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 22:42:28 -0800, spsffan
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On 1/23/2012 7:54 PM, Roger Traviss wrote:
It's not an FTC rule. It's a US DOT rule, according to several news
articles
I've read. No, it is NOT acceptable to list the price, net of taxes and
fees, in large type, with the total price in small type. The new rule
on advertising total prices including taxes and fees takes effect on the
26th.

I cannot find anything similar for hotel quotes, though.


In America, on goods subject to sales taxes, practically 100% of pricing is
always without local, state taxes. They are added at the time of payment.

In Canada, because we have a value added tax and depending on what province
you live in as it varies, shown prices will not include federal and
provincial taxes. These are also added at the time of payment.




Indeed. I do love Canada, its people, including the many expats (here in
sunny Southern California) that I know, and it's beautiful landscape and
history.

But I do question the sanity of a country where you must pay tax on a
postage stamp. Is that still the case? It was in Vancouver in 1998. Oh,
and I mean federal VAT, not provincial taxes, as far as I recall.

Regards,

DAve


The postal system, like any other "business", is a service. In a VAT
regime, services as well as goods are taxed.

The majority idiots here in British Columbia have voted to dismantle
the provincial portion of the combined fed/prov harmonized VAT, to
return to a "goods only" sales tax for provincial purposes that
cascades through the chain, being applied repetitively at each sales
step... but the unwashed masses don't unnerstand that, thanks to the
bleatings of a disgraced right-wing twit who once led the Provincial
Government a couple of decades ago.

Nobody (oops, that's accidental) likes to pay taxes, but VAT is the
fairest system: thems who spends, pays.

And before I get pounced on, there are protections in Canada: basic
food, transit, and rent are exempt. Not to forget that income taxes
were cut when the federal GST was introduced in the late 80's, and
ditto with the conversion from the PST to HST in BC which now has to
be un-done.

And po' folks like me receive credits to offset our taxable purchases.

Incidentally, Ammurican (and other) visitors to Canada are able to
reclaim their GST/HST payments, though whether the effort to track a
few pennies on postage would make sense... (!)
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The postal system, like any other "business", is a service. In a VAT
regime, services as well as goods are taxed.

The majority idiots here in British Columbia have voted to dismantle
the provincial portion of the combined fed/prov harmonized VAT, to
return to a "goods only" sales tax for provincial purposes that
cascades through the chain, being applied repetitively at each sales
step... but the unwashed masses don't unnerstand that, thanks to the
bleatings of a disgraced right-wing twit who once led the Provincial
Government a couple of decades ago.


Let's be fair to the idiots.

Our much hated ex Premier Gordon Campbell, who now has a cushy job as High
Commissioner to Britain was elected on a promise NOT to adopt the HST and
within months of being elected, the tax was announce and imposed upon BCers.
It was obvious that given the short implementation time, the Campbell
government already had the plans in the works before the election. This is
why the masses voted in a referendum to have the HST removed. Campbell then
resigned and was replaced by another bag woman, in this case who as said the
HST will take a couple of years to remove. A couple of years to remove and
just over a year to impose up BCers without any public consultations.

The tax may be a just and fair tax but what the majority of people in BC
were P/Oed about was the underhanded way it was imposed.


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Roger Traviss


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On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 19:23:10 -0800, "Roger Traviss"
wrote:

The postal system, like any other "business", is a service. In a VAT
regime, services as well as goods are taxed.

The majority idiots here in British Columbia have voted to dismantle
the provincial portion of the combined fed/prov harmonized VAT, to
return to a "goods only" sales tax for provincial purposes that
cascades through the chain, being applied repetitively at each sales
step... but the unwashed masses don't unnerstand that, thanks to the
bleatings of a disgraced right-wing twit who once led the Provincial
Government a couple of decades ago.


Let's be fair to the idiots.

Our much hated ex Premier Gordon Campbell, who now has a cushy job as High
Commissioner to Britain was elected on a promise NOT to adopt the HST and
within months of being elected, the tax was announce and imposed upon BCers.
It was obvious that given the short implementation time, the Campbell
government already had the plans in the works before the election. This is
why the masses voted in a referendum to have the HST removed. Campbell then
resigned and was replaced by another bag woman, in this case who as said the
HST will take a couple of years to remove. A couple of years to remove and
just over a year to impose up BCers without any public consultations.

The tax may be a just and fair tax but what the majority of people in BC
were P/Oed about was the underhanded way it was imposed.



Ah, Gordo...

The leader who rose from the Socred dross that hijacked Gord Wilson's
Liberal Party. At least he did what he was elected to do: he had the
guts to govern.

(And this is from moi: an NDP'er who has never voted for the laughably
named "Liberals".)

The New Democrats took the bait like a marlin after a hunger strike:
and boxed themselves into a corner of the disgraced plant-purveyor's
Fantasy Garden.

Now we're all going to pay... as I said, the ee-juts won.
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Incidentally, Ammurican (and other) visitors to Canada are able to
reclaim their GST/HST payments, though whether the effort to track a
few pennies on postage would make sense... (!)


Not any more. The GST rebates ended in April 2007. Now there's a limited
rebate for tours and an arcane set of special cases for things like works
of art produced for export.

R's,
John



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On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 03:37:35 +0000 (UTC), John Levine
wrote:

Incidentally, Ammurican (and other) visitors to Canada are able to
reclaim their GST/HST payments, though whether the effort to track a
few pennies on postage would make sense... (!)


Not any more. The GST rebates ended in April 2007. Now there's a limited
rebate for tours and an arcane set of special cases for things like works
of art produced for export.

R's,
John



My bad: the last time I toured through YVR with a furrener who was
claiming a refund was obviously years ago.


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