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Blackfriars has re-opened
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... I was just there this evening. Blackfriars NR and Blackfriars tube station are completely separate in terms of fares. This means that, if you wish to walk the length of the station from the South Bank entrance, you have to tap in. Once you get to the other side, you have to tap out again. Then you have to tap in again to enter Blackfriars tube station. These will all be charged as separate fares. There is no grace time from tapping out at Brackfriars NR to Blackfriars tube station. NO, it's a normal OSI between the gatelines. In any case, the scenario you are suggesting is contrary to FCC's published info, back in December, when the south entrance opened. Although they mentioned that a 'penalty' would apply if you simply took a walk across the river via the mainline platforms, they also explicitly stated that a continuation by tube would be charged normally. Others have been out and tested this, and proved that is indeed what happens. Paul S |
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:36:20 -0000
"Paul Scott" wrote: info, back in December, when the south entrance opened. Although they mentioned that a 'penalty' would apply if you simply took a walk across the river via the mainline platforms, they also explicitly stated that a A toll bridge. How community spirited of them. Why arn't I surprised. B2003 |
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... In article , d () wrote: A toll bridge. How community spirited of them. Why arn't I surprised. Now, now! That's like calling any two entrance gated station a toll bridge. I'd have gone with toll tunnel!, but as you suggest, and as pointed out by others back in November, it works exactly the same as if you entered and left any other barriered station between 2 and 30 mins later. (IIRC someone posted those exact figures.) Paul |
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Paul Scott wrote
A toll bridge. How community spirited of them. Why arn't I surprised. Now, now! That's like calling any two entrance gated station a toll bridge. I'd have gone with toll tunnel!, but as you suggest, and as pointed out by others back in November, it works exactly the same as if you entered and left any other barriered station between 2 and 30 mins later. (IIRC someone posted those exact figures.) Guildford station is or was a free bridge. When I last noticed there was a machine that dispensed free platform tickets. Any recent news or other examples ? -- Mike D |
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Ok, I've had a gander, and 4 questions strike me:
(a) The south entrance is nicely covered in brickwork, and fascinatingly inside the bridge itself, visibly. But there used to be really pretty arches - http://www.flickr.com/photos/ianvisits/6716393459/ http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/ima...o117,o97,j.jpg Were these destroyed? And why were they not reconstructed, or exposed for display for the station (particularly the first)? (b) The tube station has fire exits from the platforms. Why does the fire exit on the Westbound platform go down, when the fire exit on the Eastbound platform goes up? (c) The ticket office has a balcony above it, and there's a blue tube. Its subtle, but on the mockups, there is a public spiral staircase round the blue tube. Whats it for, and what is the purpose of the balcony? http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1...friars1mp5.jpg http://www.networkrail.co.uk/assets/...65c77bfc06.jpg (d) The ticket office used to be 1 floor below ground level (connecting to the passage under the road), and now its on ground level, so how come the stairs seem to be the same length, and only about one floor long? |
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On 25/02/2012 09:36, lonelytraveller wrote:
Ok, I've had a gander, and 4 questions strike me: (a) The south entrance is nicely covered in brickwork, and fascinatingly inside the bridge itself, visibly. But there used to be really pretty arches - http://www.flickr.com/photos/ianvisits/6716393459/ http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/ima...o117,o97,j.jpg Were these destroyed? And why were they not reconstructed, or exposed for display for the station (particularly the first)? (b) The tube station has fire exits from the platforms. Why does the fire exit on the Westbound platform go down, when the fire exit on the Eastbound platform goes up? (c) The ticket office has a balcony above it, and there's a blue tube. Its subtle, but on the mockups, there is a public spiral staircase round the blue tube. Whats it for, and what is the purpose of the balcony? http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1...friars1mp5.jpg http://www.networkrail.co.uk/assets/...65c77bfc06.jpg (d) The ticket office used to be 1 floor below ground level (connecting to the passage under the road), and now its on ground level, so how come the stairs seem to be the same length, and only about one floor long? The new Blackfriars reminds me somewhat of SPI. |
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25 Feb 2012, " remarked: The new Blackfriars reminds me somewhat of SPI. ...LL ? -- Roland Perry |
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On Feb 25, 4:12*pm, "
wrote: On 25/02/2012 09:36, lonelytraveller wrote: Ok, I've had a gander, and 4 questions strike me: (a) The south entrance is nicely covered in brickwork, and fascinatingly inside the bridge itself, visibly. But there used to be really pretty arches - http://www.flickr.com/photos/ianvisits/6716393459/ http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/ima...d218aaa2424be0... Were these destroyed? And why were they not reconstructed, or exposed for display for the station (particularly the first)? (b) The tube station has fire exits from the platforms. Why does the fire exit on the Westbound platform go down, when the fire exit on the Eastbound platform goes up? (c) The ticket office has a balcony above it, and there's a blue tube. Its subtle, but on the mockups, there is a public spiral staircase round the blue tube. Whats it for, and what is the purpose of the balcony? http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1...friars1mp5.jpg http://www.networkrail.co.uk/assets/...64771362/30064... (d) The ticket office used to be 1 floor below ground level (connecting to the passage under the road), and now its on ground level, so how come the stairs seem to be the same length, and only about one floor long? The new Blackfriars reminds me somewhat of SPI. St. Pancras International? Why? St. Pancras International is a huge victorian trainshed faced with a massive victorian gothic hotel. |
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"lonelytraveller" wrote in
message ... Ok, I've had a gander, and 4 questions strike me: (b) The tube station has fire exits from the platforms. Why does the fire exit on the Westbound platform go down, when the fire exit on the Eastbound platform goes up? I have some downloaded planning drawings for this stuff, and the difference seems to be that the east bound side goes up to an emergency exit at the Queen Victoria street level, but the westbound side heads off underneath the rail station's basement level, with an emergency exit to the street at a similar level to the platforms, possibly at the level of the embankment - Upper Thames St maybe? (There is another short staircase further down the passageway which raises the passageway back up to approximately platform level.) Paul S |
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