In article , d ()
wrote:

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:36:20 -0000
"Paul Scott" wrote:
info, back in December, when the south entrance opened. Although they
mentioned that a 'penalty' would apply if you simply took a walk across
the river via the mainline platforms, they also explicitly stated that a

A toll bridge. How community spirited of them. Why arn't I surprised.

Now, now! That's like calling any two entrance gated station a toll bridge.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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In article , d ()
wrote:

A toll bridge. How community spirited of them. Why arn't I surprised.

Now, now! That's like calling any two entrance gated station a toll
bridge.

I'd have gone with toll tunnel!, but as you suggest, and as pointed out by
others back in November, it works exactly the same as if you entered and
left any other barriered station between 2 and 30 mins later. (IIRC someone
posted those exact figures.)

Paul

Paul Scott wrote

A toll bridge. How community spirited of them. Why arn't I
surprised.

Now, now! That's like calling any two entrance gated station a toll

bridge.

I'd have gone with toll tunnel!, but as you suggest, and as pointed
out by
others back in November, it works exactly the same as if you entered
and
left any other barriered station between 2 and 30 mins later. (IIRC
someone
posted those exact figures.)

Guildford station is or was a free bridge. When I last noticed there
was a machine that dispensed free platform tickets.

Any recent news or other examples ?

--
Mike D

Ok, I've had a gander, and 4 questions strike me:

(a) The south entrance is nicely covered in brickwork, and
fascinatingly inside the bridge itself, visibly. But there used to be
really pretty arches -

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ianvisits/6716393459/

http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/ima...o117,o97,j.jpg

Were these destroyed? And why were they not reconstructed, or exposed
for display for the station (particularly the first)?

(b) The tube station has fire exits from the platforms. Why does the
fire exit on the Westbound platform go down, when the fire exit on the
Eastbound platform goes up?

(c) The ticket office has a balcony above it, and there's a blue tube.
Its subtle, but on the mockups, there is a public spiral staircase
round the blue tube. Whats it for, and what is the purpose of the
balcony?

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1...friars1mp5.jpg

http://www.networkrail.co.uk/assets/...65c77bfc06.jpg

(d) The ticket office used to be 1 floor below ground level
(connecting to the passage under the road), and now its on ground
level, so how come the stairs seem to be the same length, and only
about one floor long?

On 25/02/2012 09:36, lonelytraveller wrote:
Ok, I've had a gander, and 4 questions strike me:

(a) The south entrance is nicely covered in brickwork, and
fascinatingly inside the bridge itself, visibly. But there used to be
really pretty arches -

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ianvisits/6716393459/

http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/ima...o117,o97,j.jpg

Were these destroyed? And why were they not reconstructed, or exposed
for display for the station (particularly the first)?

(b) The tube station has fire exits from the platforms. Why does the
fire exit on the Westbound platform go down, when the fire exit on the
Eastbound platform goes up?

(c) The ticket office has a balcony above it, and there's a blue tube.
Its subtle, but on the mockups, there is a public spiral staircase
round the blue tube. Whats it for, and what is the purpose of the
balcony?

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1...friars1mp5.jpg

http://www.networkrail.co.uk/assets/...65c77bfc06.jpg

(d) The ticket office used to be 1 floor below ground level
(connecting to the passage under the road), and now its on ground
level, so how come the stairs seem to be the same length, and only
about one floor long?

The new Blackfriars reminds me somewhat of SPI.

In message , at 16:12:25 on Sat,
25 Feb 2012, " remarked:

The new Blackfriars reminds me somewhat of SPI.

...LL ?
--
Roland Perry

On Feb 25, 4:12*pm, "
wrote:
On 25/02/2012 09:36, lonelytraveller wrote:









Ok, I've had a gander, and 4 questions strike me:

(a) The south entrance is nicely covered in brickwork, and
fascinatingly inside the bridge itself, visibly. But there used to be
really pretty arches -

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ianvisits/6716393459/

http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/ima...d218aaa2424be0...

Were these destroyed? And why were they not reconstructed, or exposed
for display for the station (particularly the first)?

(b) The tube station has fire exits from the platforms. Why does the
fire exit on the Westbound platform go down, when the fire exit on the
Eastbound platform goes up?

(c) The ticket office has a balcony above it, and there's a blue tube.
Its subtle, but on the mockups, there is a public spiral staircase
round the blue tube. Whats it for, and what is the purpose of the
balcony?

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1...friars1mp5.jpg

http://www.networkrail.co.uk/assets/...64771362/30064...

(d) The ticket office used to be 1 floor below ground level
(connecting to the passage under the road), and now its on ground
level, so how come the stairs seem to be the same length, and only
about one floor long?

The new Blackfriars reminds me somewhat of SPI.

St. Pancras International?

Why? St. Pancras International is a huge victorian trainshed faced
with a massive victorian gothic hotel.

In message
, at
04:37:53 on Sun, 26 Feb 2012, lonelytraveller
remarked:
The new Blackfriars reminds me somewhat of SPI.

St. Pancras International?

Low Level (nee Thameslink) I expect.

Why? St. Pancras International is a huge victorian trainshed faced
with a massive victorian gothic hotel.

--
Roland Perry

On 26/02/2012 12:37, lonelytraveller wrote:
On Feb 25, 4:12 pm,
wrote:
On 25/02/2012 09:36, lonelytraveller wrote:









Ok, I've had a gander, and 4 questions strike me:

(a) The south entrance is nicely covered in brickwork, and
fascinatingly inside the bridge itself, visibly. But there used to be
really pretty arches -

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ianvisits/6716393459/

http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/ima...d218aaa2424be0...

Were these destroyed? And why were they not reconstructed, or exposed
for display for the station (particularly the first)?

(b) The tube station has fire exits from the platforms. Why does the
fire exit on the Westbound platform go down, when the fire exit on the
Eastbound platform goes up?

(c) The ticket office has a balcony above it, and there's a blue tube.
Its subtle, but on the mockups, there is a public spiral staircase
round the blue tube. Whats it for, and what is the purpose of the
balcony?

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1...friars1mp5.jpg

http://www.networkrail.co.uk/assets/...64771362/30064...

(d) The ticket office used to be 1 floor below ground level
(connecting to the passage under the road), and now its on ground
level, so how come the stairs seem to be the same length, and only
about one floor long?

The new Blackfriars reminds me somewhat of SPI.

St. Pancras International?

Why? St. Pancras International is a huge victorian trainshed faced
with a massive victorian gothic hotel.


For Thameslink, I meant.

"lonelytraveller" wrote in
message
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Ok, I've had a gander, and 4 questions strike me:

(b) The tube station has fire exits from the platforms. Why does the
fire exit on the Westbound platform go down, when the fire exit on the
Eastbound platform goes up?

I have some downloaded planning drawings for this stuff, and the difference
seems to be that the east bound side goes up to an emergency exit at the
Queen Victoria street level, but the westbound side heads off underneath the
rail station's basement level, with an emergency exit to the street at a
similar level to the platforms, possibly at the level of the embankment -
Upper Thames St maybe? (There is another short staircase further down the
passageway which raises the passageway back up to approximately platform
level.)

Paul S