On central London buses with a separate conductor, I notice that my
OysterCard is visually checked, but that's it. I could only have a
PrePay, and be getting my journey free.

On NR journeys from Kings Cross north via Finsbury Park, again, I've
only seen visual checking of OysterCards.

It would seem to me that there could be an awful lot of opprtunities for
fraud...

james007 wrote:
On central London buses with a separate conductor, I notice that my
OysterCard is visually checked, but that's it. I could only have a
PrePay, and be getting my journey free.

On NR journeys from Kings Cross north via Finsbury Park, again, I've
only seen visual checking of OysterCards.

It would seem to me that there could be an awful lot of opprtunities for
fraud...

Likewise on the DLR. There's only 2 or 3 gated stations on that whole
network (Bank, Canning Town and Stratford) and Oyster cards are still
only visually checked. It's annoying for me because I *have* only got
Pre-Pay but I'm being good (at the moment) and validating my card at the
start and end of each journey. I could save myself a hell of a lot of
money by not doing that as they don't have any way checking my card
properly.

Anyone got an update on when the portable validators for checking these
cards will be giving to the train captains, conductors etc?

In ,
Stevie typed:

Anyone got an update on when the portable validators for checking
these cards will be giving to the train captains, conductors etc?

Some of the ticket inspectors on Tramlink had them last week when I
travelled from Wimbledon to Croydon and back.


Bob

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 09:38:49 +0000, Stevie wrote:



Anyone got an update on when the portable validators for checking these
cards will be giving to the train captains, conductors etc?

I've had my oyster checked by a portable reader on the DLR

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 22:28:13 +0000 (UTC), james007
wrote:

On central London buses with a separate conductor, I notice that my
OysterCard is visually checked, but that's it. I could only have a
PrePay, and be getting my journey free.

This is why the "record card" system that is supposed to accompany an
Oyster has been such a fiasco. If record cards were issued as a matter
of policy and carrying it was compulsory, this couldn't happen.

On NR journeys from Kings Cross north via Finsbury Park, again, I've
only seen visual checking of OysterCards.

Someone here (Dave Newt?) reported that on the WAGN Liverpool Street -
Chingford line RPIs have Oyster readers.

Therefore I'd assume they'll be appearing on the GN services soon if
WA have them.

It would seem to me that there could be an awful lot of opprtunities for
fraud...

Indeed - people use their Oyster Pre-Pay on buses, and as the reader
says "Valid Throughout" many bus drivers just assume it's a season
ticket with an error and wave people on...


Cheers,

Jason.

Jason wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 22:28:13 +0000 (UTC), james007
wrote:

On central London buses with a separate conductor, I notice that my
OysterCard is visually checked, but that's it. I could only have a
PrePay, and be getting my journey free.

This is why the "record card" system that is supposed to accompany an
Oyster has been such a fiasco. If record cards were issued as a matter
of policy and carrying it was compulsory, this couldn't happen.

On NR journeys from Kings Cross north via Finsbury Park, again, I've
only seen visual checking of OysterCards.

Someone here (Dave Newt?) reported that on the WAGN Liverpool Street -
Chingford line RPIs have Oyster readers.

Yep - only once in the evening, but then I only use the line once every
few weeks.