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Surprisingly this is a topic missed by the Group.

And what a great line it is turning out to be. This morning we went to
Epping on the Central Line where we were picked up by a Green Line
Routemaster. Great ride through Epping. It was one of those buses with
the little handles on the top deck to wind down the windows.

Then at North Weald there is an option of a diesel shuttle into Epping
Forest. Or a steam hauled trip to Ongar and back.

But the highlight of the trip was talking to the volunteer staff. Very
friendly, informative, and "thank you for visiting us."

We got a look into the emaculately restored (or being worked upon)
signal boxes. And the stations have had some great restoration work
done on them.

The coaching stock was a bit grubby but what would you expect being ex-
BR.

If you are in London then do take a trip on this great little line.

SB

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On Jun 2, 7:02*pm, SB wrote:
Surprisingly this is a topic missed by the Group.

And what a great line it is turning out to be. This morning we went to
Epping on the Central Line where we were picked up by a Green Line
Routemaster. Great ride through Epping. It was one of those buses with
the little handles on the top deck to wind down the windows.

Then at North Weald there is an option of a diesel shuttle into Epping
Forest. Or a steam hauled trip to Ongar and back.

But the highlight of the trip was talking to the volunteer staff. Very
friendly, informative, and "thank you for visiting us."

We got a look into the emaculately restored (or being worked upon)
signal boxes. And the stations have had some great restoration work
done on them.

The coaching stock was a bit grubby but what would you expect being ex-
BR.

If you are in London then do take a trip on this great little line.

Sounds like an interesting line to visit.

Is there anything of Tube, or LT interest?

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In message
, SB
writes
Then at North Weald there is an option of a diesel shuttle into Epping
Forest. Or a steam hauled trip to Ongar and back.
Is Blake Hall open?
--
Clive

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On 02/06/2012 19:58, Clive wrote:
In message
, SB
writes
Then at North Weald there is an option of a diesel shuttle into Epping
Forest. Or a steam hauled trip to Ongar and back.
Is Blake Hall open?

Good and gone.

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On 02/06/2012 19:02, SB wrote:
Surprisingly this is a topic missed by the Group.

And what a great line it is turning out to be. This morning we went to
Epping on the Central Line where we were picked up by a Green Line
Routemaster. Great ride through Epping. It was one of those buses with
the little handles on the top deck to wind down the windows.

Then at North Weald there is an option of a diesel shuttle into Epping
Forest. Or a steam hauled trip to Ongar and back.

But the highlight of the trip was talking to the volunteer staff. Very
friendly, informative, and "thank you for visiting us."

We got a look into the emaculately restored (or being worked upon)
signal boxes. And the stations have had some great restoration work
done on them.

The coaching stock was a bit grubby but what would you expect being ex-
BR.

If you are in London then do take a trip on this great little line.

SB

For how long had it not been operating?

I took a ride on the line in 2005 and I remember that the track was in
such a state that there really was quite a lot of lateral motion.

They said that they were hoping to eventually build an extension into
Ongar, perhaps to share one track of the station with it. Has anything
ever come of that?

I remember also hearing that they wanted to build a station at
Coopersale, where passnegers could exit. The situation in 2005 was that
it was simply a place to turn trains.

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I was there last weekend and very impressive it was. A lot of money
has clearly been spent as the railway is in a pretty good state and
the quality of restoration is high. While the signalling is not quite
there yet, and the footbridge at North Weald is incomplete, the
experience is definitely not that of a typical newly-opened line. I'll
definitely be back for their olympic three train service - presumably
they'll need the signalling working for that.

And, as others have said, they were friendly and helpful everywhere.

While I was there, I walked from Ongar to North Weald looking at the
various public crossing points. If anyone's interested in the pics
they are at :

http://www.flickr.com/photos/carpent...7629915203454/

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How much is it?

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On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 21:27:08 -0700 (PDT), Offramp
wrote:

How much is it?

Click on your chosen date and you will find the fa
http://eorailway.co.uk/your-visit/timetables-and-fares/

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On 02/06/12 19:02, SB wrote:
Then at North Weald there is an option of a diesel shuttle into Epping
Forest. Or a steam hauled trip to Ongar and back.

As a matter of interest, why two train sets on each side of North Weald
and not end-to-end trains? Some issue with steam in the forest?

Ian

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In message , at 10:24:54 on Tue, 5 Jun 2012,
The Real Doctor remarked:
Then at North Weald there is an option of a diesel shuttle into Epping
Forest. Or a steam hauled trip to Ongar and back.

As a matter of interest, why two train sets on each side of North Weald
and not end-to-end trains? Some issue with steam in the forest?

Clearance under the M11 bridge?
--
Roland Perry

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On Jun 5, 10:24*am, The Real Doctor wrote:
On 02/06/12 19:02, SB wrote:

Then at North Weald there is an option of a diesel shuttle into Epping
Forest. Or a steam hauled trip to Ongar and back.

As a matter of interest, why two train sets on each side of North Weald
and not end-to-end trains? Some issue with steam in the forest?

Ian

I'm not connected with the railway but the impression I gained is that
the plan is to run steam trains NW - Ongar since there will be run-
round facilities at both ends, with a DMU shuttle at the Epping end
where it's just a single line. On the opening weekend, the loop at
Ongar was not ready.

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On Jun 5, 11:36*pm, Roger Carpenter wrote:
On Jun 5, 10:24*am, The Real Doctor wrote:

On 02/06/12 19:02, SB wrote:

Then at North Weald there is an option of a diesel shuttle into Epping
Forest. Or a steam hauled trip to Ongar and back.

As a matter of interest, why two train sets on each side of North Weald
and not end-to-end trains? Some issue with steam in the forest?

Ian

I'm not connected with the railway but the impression I gained is that
the plan is to run steam trains NW - Ongar since there will be run-
round facilities at both ends, with a DMU shuttle at the Epping end
where it's just a single line. On the opening weekend, the loop at
Ongar was not ready.

I'm a Member, I couldn't volunteer this weekend due to other
commitments, but I hope to start soon!

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On Jun 5, 11:33*am, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 10:24:54 on Tue, 5 Jun 2012,
The Real Doctor remarked:

Then at North Weald there is an option of a diesel shuttle into Epping
Forest. Or a steam hauled trip to Ongar and back.

As a matter of interest, why two train sets on each side of North Weald
and not end-to-end trains? Some issue with steam in the forest?

Clearance under the M11 bridge?


Epping to Ongar would have been the perfect line for preserved 1938
and Standard tube trains. I know Electricity, Elfin Safety. There
are US preserved Trolley Lines with 600v DC overhead.

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On Jun 6, 1:07*pm, 77002 wrote:
On Jun 5, 11:33*am, Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at 10:24:54 on Tue, 5 Jun 2012,
The Real Doctor remarked:

Then at North Weald there is an option of a diesel shuttle into Epping
Forest. Or a steam hauled trip to Ongar and back.

As a matter of interest, why two train sets on each side of North Weald
and not end-to-end trains? Some issue with steam in the forest?

Clearance under the M11 bridge?

Epping to Ongar would have been the perfect line for preserved 1938
and Standard tube trains. *I know Electricity, Elfin Safety. *There
are US preserved Trolley Lines with 600v DC overhead.

Has anyone seen the rusty tube loco. wreck outside Epping Station? It
looks like a long abandoned battery loco. Surprised the scrap metal
wallas haven't had it. Its been there for years. Apparently its been
offered to EOR but they don't want it.

CJB.

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On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 05:14:10 -0700 (PDT), CJB
wrote:

On Jun 6, 1:07*pm, 77002 wrote:
On Jun 5, 11:33*am, Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at 10:24:54 on Tue, 5 Jun 2012,
The Real Doctor remarked:

Then at North Weald there is an option of a diesel shuttle into Epping
Forest. Or a steam hauled trip to Ongar and back.

As a matter of interest, why two train sets on each side of North Weald
and not end-to-end trains? Some issue with steam in the forest?

Clearance under the M11 bridge?

Epping to Ongar would have been the perfect line for preserved 1938
and Standard tube trains. *I know Electricity, Elfin Safety. *There
are US preserved Trolley Lines with 600v DC overhead.

Has anyone seen the rusty tube loco. wreck outside Epping Station? It
looks like a long abandoned battery loco. Surprised the scrap metal
wallas haven't had it. Its been there for years. Apparently its been
offered to EOR but they don't want it.

From what I've read, EOR harks back to the line's origins as a steam
railway, and ignores its temporary status as an electrified Tube line.
So any Tube memorabilia would have limited or no relevance.

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In message , Recliner
writes
From what I've read, EOR harks back to the line's origins as a steam
railway, and ignores its temporary status as an electrified Tube line.
So any Tube memorabilia would have limited or no relevance.
And to think that when I was at Hainault I used to work on that shuttle,
but both intermediate stations were open then.
--
Clive

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On Jun 6, 1:44*pm, Clive wrote:
In message , Recliner
writesFrom what I've read, EOR harks back to the line's origins as a steam
railway, and ignores its temporary status as an electrified Tube line.
So any Tube memorabilia would have limited or no relevance.

And to think that when I was at Hainault I used to work on that shuttle,
but both intermediate stations were open then.

The UK has countless preserved railways that reflect steam in the 20s/
30s/40s/50s. It would be so good to have a line doing something
different. A line with preserved tube trains at the end of an active
tube line would be special. Keep in mind that in the early tube years
the route to Ongar had electric passenger trains, and steam freight
trains.

Their line, their choices I guess.

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On 2012\06\06 13:07, 77002 wrote:
On Jun 5, 11:33 am, Roland wrote:
In , at 10:24:54 on Tue, 5 Jun 2012,
The Real remarked:

Then at North Weald there is an option of a diesel shuttle into Epping
Forest. Or a steam hauled trip to Ongar and back.

As a matter of interest, why two train sets on each side of North Weald
and not end-to-end trains? Some issue with steam in the forest?

Clearance under the M11 bridge?


Epping to Ongar would have been the perfect line for preserved 1938
and Standard tube trains.


Of course not, it's the middle of nowhere, and Tube stock only makes
sense in a Tube. The Aldwych branch (accessed from Holborn only) would
be much better. Even the abandoned Thameslink tunnels from Barbican to
Moorgate would be a better place for preserved Tube stock than a field
in Essex.

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In message , at 15:15:04 on
Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Basil Jet remarked:
Epping to Ongar would have been the perfect line for preserved 1938
and Standard tube trains.

Of course not, it's the middle of nowhere, and Tube stock only makes
sense in a Tube.

Or on a line leading from London to the "Secret" Nuclear bunker.

The Aldwych branch (accessed from Holborn only) would be much better.
Even the abandoned Thameslink tunnels from Barbican to Moorgate would
be a better place for preserved Tube stock than a field in Essex.

For a museum, I agree, although neither of those is much good for giving
rides on the trains.
--
Roland Perry

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On Jun 6, 3:15*pm, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2012\06\06 13:07, 77002 wrote:

On Jun 5, 11:33 am, Roland *wrote:
In , at 10:24:54 on Tue, 5 Jun 2012,
The Real *remarked:

Then at North Weald there is an option of a diesel shuttle into Epping
Forest. Or a steam hauled trip to Ongar and back.

As a matter of interest, why two train sets on each side of North Weald
and not end-to-end trains? Some issue with steam in the forest?

Clearance under the M11 bridge?

Epping to Ongar would have been the perfect line for preserved 1938
and Standard tube trains.

Of course not, it's the middle of nowhere, and Tube stock only makes
sense in a Tube. The Aldwych branch (accessed from Holborn only) would
be much better. Even the abandoned Thameslink tunnels from Barbican to
Moorgate would be a better place for preserved Tube stock than a field
in Essex.

Come on Basil, the Thameslink tunnels would not look right. The
platforms are too high and the tunnels are too big. The Aldwych
Branch, with Aldwych Station re-opend by preservationists would be
perfect. But, we both know that is not going to happen. The Ongar
Branch is the next best thing.

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On 06/06/2012 13:07, 77002 wrote:
On Jun 5, 11:33 am, Roland wrote:
In , at 10:24:54 on Tue, 5 Jun 2012,
The Real remarked:

Then at North Weald there is an option of a diesel shuttle into Epping
Forest. Or a steam hauled trip to Ongar and back.

As a matter of interest, why two train sets on each side of North Weald
and not end-to-end trains? Some issue with steam in the forest?

Clearance under the M11 bridge?


Epping to Ongar would have been the perfect line for preserved 1938
and Standard tube trains. I know Electricity, Elfin Safety. There
are US preserved Trolley Lines with 600v DC overhead.

As there are here in the UK, the main example being the National Tramway
Museum at Crich.

Might have something to do with the fact that the 3rd and 4th rails are
on the ground and those propose a greater risk to civilians. Agencies
with charters to provide public transport probably have an easier time
securing the needed permits and insurance as they will have have backing
from various government bodies.

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On 06/06/2012 15:51, 77002 wrote:
On Jun 6, 3:15 pm, Basil wrote:
On 2012\06\06 13:07, 77002 wrote:

On Jun 5, 11:33 am, Roland wrote:
In , at 10:24:54 on Tue, 5 Jun 2012,
The Real remarked:

Then at North Weald there is an option of a diesel shuttle into Epping
Forest. Or a steam hauled trip to Ongar and back.

As a matter of interest, why two train sets on each side of North Weald
and not end-to-end trains? Some issue with steam in the forest?

Clearance under the M11 bridge?

Epping to Ongar would have been the perfect line for preserved 1938
and Standard tube trains.

Of course not, it's the middle of nowhere, and Tube stock only makes
sense in a Tube. The Aldwych branch (accessed from Holborn only) would
be much better. Even the abandoned Thameslink tunnels from Barbican to
Moorgate would be a better place for preserved Tube stock than a field
in Essex.

Come on Basil, the Thameslink tunnels would not look right. The
platforms are too high and the tunnels are too big. The Aldwych
Branch, with Aldwych Station re-opend by preservationists would be
perfect. But, we both know that is not going to happen. The Ongar
Branch is the next best thing.

Considering how passenger volumes have risen in past years, would TfL
ever consider reactivating the Aldwych branch?

Perhaps they could run a pilotless shuttle out that way and back,
something along the lines of rolling stock seen on the Copenhagen Metro.

Interesting thought.

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In message , at 02:03:01 on Thu, 7 Jun 2012,
" remarked:
Considering how passenger volumes have risen in past years, would TfL
ever consider reactivating the Aldwych branch?

aiui the problem is the cost of refurbishing Aldwych Station, especially
the lifts, rather than the line itself.
--
Roland Perry

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In message , at 11:07:07 on
Thu, 7 Jun 2012, remarked:
Those who are really interested have at
the moment the chance of the Sarah Siddons tours and the occasional
run of the 1938 tube stock and surely it is better to keep such as
artifacts in good condition with an occasional run rather than wear
such things out bashing them up down a few miles every weekend
carrying uninterested children wondering why they don't look like the
trains from Underground Ernie.

I think you might be surprised. The Waterloo and City centenary open
weekend was very well patronised, for example. And my son got a cab ride
(which my daughter has never quite forgiven either of us for).
--
Roland Perry

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On Jun 7, 11:07*am, wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 01:31:41 +0100, "

wrote:

Epping to Ongar would have been the perfect line for preserved 1938
and Standard tube trains. *I know Electricity, Elfin Safety. *There
are US preserved Trolley Lines with 600v DC overhead.

As there are here in the UK, the main example being the National Tramway
Museum at Crich.

Might have something to do with the fact that the 3rd and 4th rails are
on the ground and those propose a greater risk to civilians. Agencies
with charters to provide public transport probably have an easier time
securing the needed permits and insurance as they will have have backing
from various government bodies.

Then stick a trolley pole on the stock,that is what has been done in
the USA where some New York equipment is worked at a trolley museum.

But really would there be enough long term interest to make such a
line worthwhile. Underground stock to the vast majority of people is
all much of a much ness. Joe public is not going to frequent a line
that doesn't offer a much different experience than riding on above
ground section of the Piccadilly. And even amongst rail enthusiasts
the attraction is limited . Those who are really interested have at
the moment the chance of the Sarah Siddons tours and the occasional
run of the 1938 tube stock and surely it is better to keep such as
artifacts in good condition with an occasional run rather than wear
such things out bashing them up down a few miles every weekend
carrying uninterested children wondering why they don't look like the
trains from Underground Ernie.

Recreating the period imediatetly post electification would give
plenty of scope for variety. At that point steam freight still ran
over the Ongar branch (Central Line). ISTR there was an early morning
DMU to Liverpool Street also.

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"77002" wrote

Keep in mind that in the early tube years
the route to Ongar had electric passenger trains, and steam freight
trains.

For several years after the tube got to Epping in 1949 until 1957 the Ongar
shuttle remained steam operated (by BR on behalf of LT).

Peter

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Roland Perry wrote:

Considering how passenger volumes have risen in past years, would TfL ever
consider reactivating the Aldwych branch?

aiui the problem is the cost of refurbishing Aldwych Station, especially
the lifts, rather than the line itself.

Plus there was very little time gained from using the shuttle over walking
to or from Holborn - the journey was very short and infrequent enough for
that.
--
My blog: http://adf.ly/4hi4c

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On 07/06/2012 17:04, Tim Roll-Pickering wrote:
Roland Perry wrote:

Considering how passenger volumes have risen in past years, would TfL ever
consider reactivating the Aldwych branch?

aiui the problem is the cost of refurbishing Aldwych Station, especially
the lifts, rather than the line itself.

So, put the money into the lifts finally.

Plus there was very little time gained from using the shuttle over walking
to or from Holborn - the journey was very short and infrequent enough for
that.


The walk from Holborn to Aldwych is not so short.

What about Leicester Square-Covent Garden, Embankment-Charing Cross or
Canary Wharf-Heron Quays?

Leicester Square and Covent Garden are so close that there is a
policeman at the former because of concerns about the overlap should a
train fly past the station. I also notice that, if things are quiet
enough at Leicester Square, you can actually hear the train braking, the
doors opening, the closing signal and the train taking off again.

Canary Wharf and Heron Quays are within plain view of each other -- no
obstructions or anything like that.

All three examples that I gave are also within very easy walking
distance between each other, whereas a walk between Holborn and Aldwych
will take longer.

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On 07/06/2012 11:07, wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 01:31:41 +0100, "
wrote:




Epping to Ongar would have been the perfect line for preserved 1938
and Standard tube trains. I know Electricity, Elfin Safety. There
are US preserved Trolley Lines with 600v DC overhead.

As there are here in the UK, the main example being the National Tramway
Museum at Crich.

Might have something to do with the fact that the 3rd and 4th rails are
on the ground and those propose a greater risk to civilians. Agencies
with charters to provide public transport probably have an easier time
securing the needed permits and insurance as they will have have backing
from various government bodies.

Then stick a trolley pole on the stock,that is what has been done in
the USA where some New York equipment is worked at a trolley museum.

But really would there be enough long term interest to make such a
line worthwhile. Underground stock to the vast majority of people is
all much of a much ness. Joe public is not going to frequent a line
that doesn't offer a much different experience than riding on above
ground section of the Piccadilly. And even amongst rail enthusiasts
the attraction is limited . Those who are really interested have at
the moment the chance of the Sarah Siddons tours and the occasional
run of the 1938 tube stock and surely it is better to keep such as
artifacts in good condition with an occasional run rather than wear
such things out bashing them up down a few miles every weekend
carrying uninterested children wondering why they don't look like the
trains from Underground Ernie.

G.Harman


I was just mentioning why I think that it would be difficult to
reinstall 3rd and 4th rail again on Epping-Ongar -- nothing else.

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On 07/06/2012 11:39, 77002 wrote:
On Jun 7, 11:07 am, wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 01:31:41 +0100, "

wrote:

Epping to Ongar would have been the perfect line for preserved 1938
and Standard tube trains. I know Electricity, Elfin Safety. There
are US preserved Trolley Lines with 600v DC overhead.

As there are here in the UK, the main example being the National Tramway
Museum at Crich.

Might have something to do with the fact that the 3rd and 4th rails are
on the ground and those propose a greater risk to civilians. Agencies
with charters to provide public transport probably have an easier time
securing the needed permits and insurance as they will have have backing
from various government bodies.

Then stick a trolley pole on the stock,that is what has been done in
the USA where some New York equipment is worked at a trolley museum.

But really would there be enough long term interest to make such a
line worthwhile. Underground stock to the vast majority of people is
all much of a much ness. Joe public is not going to frequent a line
that doesn't offer a much different experience than riding on above
ground section of the Piccadilly. And even amongst rail enthusiasts
the attraction is limited . Those who are really interested have at
the moment the chance of the Sarah Siddons tours and the occasional
run of the 1938 tube stock and surely it is better to keep such as
artifacts in good condition with an occasional run rather than wear
such things out bashing them up down a few miles every weekend
carrying uninterested children wondering why they don't look like the
trains from Underground Ernie.

Recreating the period imediatetly post electification would give
plenty of scope for variety. At that point steam freight still ran
over the Ongar branch (Central Line). ISTR there was an early morning
DMU to Liverpool Street also.


And where did it gateway onto BR, Stratford?

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wrote

And where did it gateway onto BR, Stratford?

Quite close to Leyton station, where the Central Line tunnel from Stratford
re-emerges on the surface. The junction with the Stratford - Temple Mills -
Tottenham line was at Loughton Branch Junction. Freight also ran on to the
Hainault Loop via the curve from Seven Kings until 1956.

Peter

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On 07/06/12 21:40, wrote:
On 07/06/2012 17:04, Tim Roll-Pickering wrote:
Roland Perry wrote:

Plus there was very little time gained from using the shuttle over
walking
to or from Holborn - the journey was very short and infrequent enough for
that.


The walk from Holborn to Aldwych is not so short.

What about Leicester Square-Covent Garden, Embankment-Charing Cross or
Canary Wharf-Heron Quays?

None of your examples involves changing train (and indeed platform) in
order to avoid a walk.

You don't have to change trains to do Leicester Square to Covent Garden,
or Canary Wharf to Heron Quays.

There are no trains from Charing Cross to Embankment.

Ian

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On 07/06/2012 21:40, wrote:

On 07/06/2012 17:04, Tim Roll-Pickering wrote:
[...]
Plus there was very little time gained from using the shuttle over
walking to or from Holborn - the journey was very short and
infrequent enough for that.


The walk from Holborn to Aldwych is not so short.

It's half a mile - which is pretty short in my book. I can see little
justification in reopening it.

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On 07/06/2012 22:10, The Real Doctor wrote:

On 07/06/12 21:40, wrote:

The walk from Holborn to Aldwych is not so short.

What about Leicester Square-Covent Garden, Embankment-Charing Cross or
Canary Wharf-Heron Quays?

None of your examples involves changing train (and indeed platform) in
order to avoid a walk.

You don't have to change trains to do Leicester Square to Covent Garden,
or Canary Wharf to Heron Quays.

There are no trains from Charing Cross to Embankment.

? - there's the Northern and Bakerloo lines - not that I'd recommend
anyone to use them when changing from/to the Circle/District at Embankment.

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In message , at 22:10:34 on Thu, 7 Jun 2012,
The Real Doctor remarked:

There are no trains from Charing Cross to Embankment.

Apart from the Northern Line, and if you include the old Trafalgar
Square Station, the Bakerloo.

But I'm all in favour of re-opening Aldwych, if it was cost effective.
It's a long walk in the rain, and I'm generally heading for Kings Cross
so Temple and the southern section of the Circle isn't a lot of use. I'd
head for Covent Garden rather than Holborn, and there's some cover
halfway too.
--
Roland Perry

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On 07/06/2012 22:10, The Real Doctor wrote:
On 07/06/12 21:40, wrote:
On 07/06/2012 17:04, Tim Roll-Pickering wrote:
Roland Perry wrote:

Plus there was very little time gained from using the shuttle over
walking
to or from Holborn - the journey was very short and infrequent enough
for
that.


The walk from Holborn to Aldwych is not so short.

What about Leicester Square-Covent Garden, Embankment-Charing Cross or
Canary Wharf-Heron Quays?

None of your examples involves changing train (and indeed platform) in
order to avoid a walk.
You don't have to change trains to do Leicester Square to Covent Garden,
or Canary Wharf to Heron Quays.

Still, it's a bit of a walk between Holborn and Aldwych

There are no trains from Charing Cross to Embankment.


.... except on the Bakerloo Line and the Charing Cross branch of the
Northern Line.

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On 07/06/2012 22:10, The Real Doctor wrote:

There are no trains from Charing Cross to Embankment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bakerloo_Line.svg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Northern_Line.svg

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On 07/06/12 22:25, Mizter T wrote:

? - there's the Northern and Bakerloo lines - not that I'd recommend
anyone to use them when changing from/to the Circle/District at Embankment.

****.

OK, that's basically the same as the other examples, then.

Ian

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On 07/06/2012 22:59, The Real Doctor wrote:
On 07/06/12 22:25, Mizter T wrote:

? - there's the Northern and Bakerloo lines - not that I'd recommend
anyone to use them when changing from/to the Circle/District at
Embankment.

****.

OK, that's basically the same as the other examples, then.

Ian
Still, Holborn to Aldwych is a much longer walk.

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In message , at 00:15:31 on Fri, 8
Jun 2012, Steve Fitzgerald ] remarked:
Still, it's a bit of a walk between Holborn and Aldwych

You lot never heard of buses? It's 2 stops FFS.

That costs extra money, and the bus stops at both end aren't necessarily
easy to find (complex road junctions, too many buses to choose from).
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Roland Perry