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Charles Ellson July 9th 12 09:34 PM

Labour backs plans to return railway network to public control - Guardian/Observer
 
On Mon, 09 Jul 2012 20:02:49 +0100, ŽiŠardo wrote:

On 09/07/2012 16:07, The Real Doctor wrote:
On 01/07/12 00:05, Bruce wrote:
Labour backs plans to return railway network to public control


If only they'd thought of that in 1997. What cretin wrote their
manifesto, eh?

Ian


Well, they succeeded with the groundwork by shafting Railtrack by
refusing it funds and then setting up Network Rail by giving 20 times as
much.

They didn't "set it up", they renamed it (Network Rail Infrastructure
Ltd. previously known as Railtrack plc) on 3 Feb 2003.

Jarle H Knudsen July 9th 12 11:33 PM

Labour backs plans to return railway network to public control - Guardian/
 
On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 20:28:21 +0100, Colin McKenzie wrote:

The assembly is purely a scrutiny body. A bit like parliament.


Parliament can vote against a bill. Can the Assembly do anything like
that?


It can veto the Mayor's budget.


What if the Mayor doesn't stick to the budget?

--
jhk

[email protected] July 10th 12 12:12 AM

Labour backs plans to return railway network to public control - Guardian/
 
In article ,
(Jarle H Knudsen) wrote:

On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 20:28:21 +0100, Colin McKenzie wrote:

The assembly is purely a scrutiny body. A bit like parliament.

Parliament can vote against a bill. Can the Assembly do anything like
that?


It can veto the Mayor's budget.


What if the Mayor doesn't stick to the budget?


He can only set a Council Tax precept and allow expenditure that has been
authorised by the budget.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

ŽiŠardo July 10th 12 09:03 AM

Labour backs plans to return railway network to public control- Guardian/Observer
 
On 09/07/2012 22:34, Charles Ellson wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jul 2012 20:02:49 +0100, wrote:

On 09/07/2012 16:07, The Real Doctor wrote:
On 01/07/12 00:05, Bruce wrote:
Labour backs plans to return railway network to public control

If only they'd thought of that in 1997. What cretin wrote their
manifesto, eh?

Ian


Well, they succeeded with the groundwork by shafting Railtrack by
refusing it funds and then setting up Network Rail by giving 20 times as
much.

They didn't "set it up", they renamed it (Network Rail Infrastructure
Ltd. previously known as Railtrack plc) on 3 Feb 2003.


And then started pouring in funds that were denied to the original set up.

Stephen Byers' interesting little exercise in spite, following on from
the involvement of RMT's puppet John Prescott!

--
Moving things in still pictures



Jarle H Knudsen July 10th 12 11:27 AM

Labour backs plans to return railway network to public control - Guardian/
 
On Mon, 09 Jul 2012 19:12:44 -0500, wrote:

In article ,

(Jarle H Knudsen) wrote:

On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 20:28:21 +0100, Colin McKenzie wrote:

The assembly is purely a scrutiny body. A bit like parliament.

Parliament can vote against a bill. Can the Assembly do anything like
that?

It can veto the Mayor's budget.


What if the Mayor doesn't stick to the budget?


He can only set a Council Tax precept and allow expenditure that has been
authorised by the budget.


Yes, but I was wondering what might happen if does not stick to the budget.
Has the Assembly or any other body any sanctions available?

--
jhk

[email protected] July 10th 12 02:03 PM

Labour backs plans to return railway network to public control - Guardian/
 
In article ,
(Jarle H Knudsen) wrote:

On Mon, 09 Jul 2012 19:12:44 -0500,

wrote:

In article ,
(Jarle H Knudsen) wrote:

On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 20:28:21 +0100, Colin McKenzie wrote:

The assembly is purely a scrutiny body. A bit like parliament.

Parliament can vote against a bill. Can the Assembly do anything
like that?

It can veto the Mayor's budget.

What if the Mayor doesn't stick to the budget?


He can only set a Council Tax precept and allow expenditure that
has been authorised by the budget.


Yes, but I was wondering what might happen if does not stick to the
budget. Has the Assembly or any other body any sanctions available?


If they don't the auditor has.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Charles Ellson July 10th 12 07:52 PM

Labour backs plans to return railway network to public control - Guardian/Observer
 
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 10:03:49 +0100, ŽiŠardo wrote:

On 09/07/2012 22:34, Charles Ellson wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jul 2012 20:02:49 +0100, wrote:

On 09/07/2012 16:07, The Real Doctor wrote:
On 01/07/12 00:05, Bruce wrote:
Labour backs plans to return railway network to public control

If only they'd thought of that in 1997. What cretin wrote their
manifesto, eh?

Ian


Well, they succeeded with the groundwork by shafting Railtrack by
refusing it funds and then setting up Network Rail by giving 20 times as
much.

They didn't "set it up", they renamed it (Network Rail Infrastructure
Ltd. previously known as Railtrack plc) on 3 Feb 2003.


And then started pouring in funds that were denied to the original set up.

Why should the private Railtrack have received funds from HMG rather
than from the train companies thus contradicting the alleged reasons
for privatising the railways ?

Stephen Byers' interesting little exercise in spite, following on from
the involvement of RMT's puppet John Prescott!



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