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On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 10:05:30AM -0500, wrote:
(David Cantrell) wrote:
wrote:
A bit more than that. It also controls a transport system carrying
half the nation's passengers.
That's pretty much *all* it is. The mayor has no significant powers
over anything else that people care about. And I'm not sure what powers
the assembly has at all.
The mayor has rather more planning powers than any county council.

I don't think many people care about skyscrapers unless there's one next
door.

The assembly is purely a scrutiny body. A bit like parliament.

Parliament can vote against a bill. Can the Assembly do anything like
that?

--
David Cantrell | Hero of the Information Age

"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands,
hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -- H. L. Mencken

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On Jul 5, 1:45*pm, wrote:

What no one seems to give a toss about and which I think is far more
important is gay adoption. Many kids don't get a proper upbringing for whatever
reason but if the state has a choice of who to give a child to then its
IMO beholden to put them in a normal family - ie man & women. A child needs a
mother and a father, not 2 of one and zero of the other. Gay adopters should
be a last resort if there is simply nowhere else for the child to go. The
childs rights are paramount, the couples rights are irrelevant.

My understanding is that, in the UK, there is a shortage of adoptive
parents at the moment (ie a surplus of children). The choice, then,
isn't between a stable home where a man and a woman live together to
raise the child or a stable home where two men or two women live
together to raise the child, but between a stable home where two men
or two women live together to raise the child or some institutional
care home (with a long etsablished history of not providing a
particularly good environment for children, often from difficult
backgrounds). Studies of homosexual couples who have adopted have
suggested that, from a child welfare perspective, the environment they
provide their children is signficiantly better than that provided by a
care home.

Robin

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On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 05:21:09 -0700 (PDT)
bob wrote:
My understanding is that, in the UK, there is a shortage of adoptive
parents at the moment (ie a surplus of children). The choice, then,

I bet I can guess where a lot of those kids come from and why nobody
wants to adopt them.

backgrounds). Studies of homosexual couples who have adopted have
suggested that, from a child welfare perspective, the environment they
provide their children is signficiantly better than that provided by a
care home.

Probably true. But I even if there weren't a shortage of adopters the gay
lobby would do their best to make sure "equal rights" were applied to couples
wrt who gets a child and sod what matters to the child itself.

B2003

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On Jul 5, 1:16*pm, David Cantrell wrote:
On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 06:41:54AM +0100, Martin Edwards wrote:
We've nearly been through the card now. *How about capital punishment,
safety belts are dangerous and smoking is good for you?

If it helps, my dad recently had a heart attack while playing squash.
He wasn't smoking at the time. *This *PROVES* that smoking prevents
heart attacks, and that exercise is bad for you.

This is regretable news. I hope your father has a speedy and full
recovery.

This, IMHO, is not something about which one should joke.

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On 05-Jul-12 08:44, d wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 05:21:09 -0700 (PDT)
bob wrote:
My understanding is that, in the UK, there is a shortage of adoptive
parents at the moment (ie a surplus of children). The choice, then,

I bet I can guess where a lot of those kids come from and why nobody
wants to adopt them.

That doesn't excuse the fact that, when someone _does_ want to adopt
them, they are told "no" for various reasons that have little or nothing
to do with their ability to provide a better home than where the child
is already located.

For instance, many places prohibit adoptions by single couples, single
men, single women, couples married less than N years (where N exceeds
the 50% divorce rate), parents with the wrong skin color, parents of the
wrong religion, parents with too little income, etc.

Yes, in an ideal world, we would place every kid in a "perfect" family.
However, there seems to be a shortage of "perfect" couples to go
around, and those that do exist are rarely willing to adopt unless
they're unable to have biological children--which is why homosexual
couples are the best solution to the problem at hand _today_.

S

--
Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein
CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking

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On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 07:45:40 -0700 (PDT), 77002
wrote:

On Jul 5, 1:16*pm, David Cantrell wrote:
On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 06:41:54AM +0100, Martin Edwards wrote:
We've nearly been through the card now. *How about capital punishment,
safety belts are dangerous and smoking is good for you?

If it helps, my dad recently had a heart attack while playing squash.
He wasn't smoking at the time. *This *PROVES* that smoking prevents
heart attacks, and that exercise is bad for you.

This is regretable news. I hope your father has a speedy and full
recovery.

This, IMHO, is not something about which one should joke.

You're not a student of gallows humour ?

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On 05/07/2012 14:44, d wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 05:21:09 -0700 (PDT)
wrote:
My understanding is that, in the UK, there is a shortage of adoptive
parents at the moment (ie a surplus of children). The choice, then,

I bet I can guess where a lot of those kids come from and why nobody
wants to adopt them.


Your guess is?


--
Myth, after all, is what we believe naturally. History is what we must
painfully learn and struggle to remember. -Albert Goldman

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On 06/07/2012 07:37, Martin Edwards wrote:
On 05/07/2012 14:44, d wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 05:21:09 -0700 (PDT)
wrote:
My understanding is that, in the UK, there is a shortage of adoptive
parents at the moment (ie a surplus of children). The choice, then,

I bet I can guess where a lot of those kids come from and why nobody
wants to adopt them.


Your guess is?



The Stork brought them.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

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In article ,
Martin Edwards wrote:
On 05/07/2012 14:44, d wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 05:21:09 -0700 (PDT)
wrote:
My understanding is that, in the UK, there is a shortage of adoptive
parents at the moment (ie a surplus of children). The choice, then,

I bet I can guess where a lot of those kids come from and why nobody
wants to adopt them.


Your guess is?

It's these unnatural and irresponsible gay marriages, producing unwanted
children left, right and centre ...

Nick
--
"The Internet, a sort of ersatz counterfeit of real life"
-- Janet Street-Porter, BBC2, 19th March 1996

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On Jul 6, 8:28*am, Nick Leverton wrote:
In article ,
Martin Edwards wrote:

On 05/07/2012 14:44, wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 05:21:09 -0700 (PDT)
*wrote:
My understanding is that, in the UK, there is a shortage of adoptive
parents at the moment (ie a surplus of children). *The choice, then,

I bet I can guess where a lot of those kids come from and why nobody
wants to adopt them.

Your guess is?

It's these unnatural and irresponsible gay marriages, producing unwanted
children left, right and centre ...

The average is 2.2 per couple, bright and cheerful, or not. My spouse
and I were gay enough to produce four. There is nothing unatural
about being bright and cheerful whatever the liberals tell you.