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Roland Perry November 24th 12 05:21 PM

Drivers telling passengers to use the emergency buttons...
 
In message , at 15:30:32 on Sat, 24
Nov 2012, Graeme Wall remarked:
If all the station has is a bit of passing country road, that's what
they need to use. The contract won't require the bus operator to install
a bus stop.

It will require them to stop at a designated place.


"Second tree along from the bend in the road, next to the muddy grass
verge"? Because that's all there is.


All that you notice. Far more likely will be defined with reference to
the station.


"Second tree from the station" then. Still a muddy grass verge.
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Roland Perry

Roland Perry November 24th 12 05:23 PM

Drivers telling passengers to use the emergency buttons...
 
In message , at 15:31:37 on Sat, 24
Nov 2012, Graeme Wall remarked:

But it's not a local bus service. It's an emergency bustitution.


So therefore it can't use the local bus stops.


But neither is it prohibited. Unless the bit of road in question has a
sign saying "No Stopping - except local buses", which they don't.
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Roland Perry

Roland Perry November 24th 12 05:25 PM

Drivers telling passengers to use the emergency buttons...
 
In message , at
15:35:23 on Sat, 24 Nov 2012, Portsmouth Rider
remarked:

But it's not a local bus service. It's an emergency bustitution.


Which is exactly what at least three posters to this thread have been
telling you for the last few days.


Unless the bus stop has a prohibition on "Stopping", other than local
buses (there are some of those, but generally only in very congested
city centres) then anyone can stop to let a passenger out.

As a car driver, I don't need to register with the authorities weeks in
advance to stop there.
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Roland Perry

Roland Perry November 24th 12 05:25 PM

Drivers telling passengers to use the emergency buttons...
 
In message , at 15:33:07 on Sat, 24
Nov 2012, Graeme Wall remarked:

Read the T&Cs


The ones that say if me getting off the bus delays it another few
seconds[1], none of the other passengers can sue either? Those T&C?


No the real ones,


Which say what? No, don't answer that, you never do.

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Roland Perry

Roland Perry November 24th 12 05:27 PM

Drivers telling passengers to use the emergency buttons...
 
In message , at
15:36:35 on Sat, 24 Nov 2012, Portsmouth Rider
remarked:

Once again the thread descends down a rathole where common sense
has been thrown out of the window


Indeed. And a little common sense would say that a private hire bus can
stop anywhere it likes to let people off, absent a specific "no
stopping" plate.
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Roland Perry

Roland Perry November 24th 12 05:28 PM

Drivers telling passengers to use the emergency buttons...
 
In message , at
16:22:36 on Sat, 24 Nov 2012, Portsmouth Rider
remarked:

This inflexible attitude is exactly what gives the railways such a poor
reputation, and means a lot of people won't even consider using them.


But we are not the pratts who are walking back home from the station.


No, you are the jobsworth pratts who take delight in making your
customers' lives a misery.
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Roland Perry

Graeme Wall November 24th 12 05:38 PM

Drivers telling passengers to use the emergency buttons...
 
On 24/11/2012 18:20, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 15:47:29 on Sat, 24
Nov 2012, Graeme Wall remarked:

And you've got that bit wrong as well.


I'm tempted to ask why you think I've got it wrong, but you never
respond to such requests, so I won't.


Because the comments were about people alighting, not boarding.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

Graeme Wall November 24th 12 05:39 PM

Drivers telling passengers to use the emergency buttons...
 
On 24/11/2012 18:21, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 15:30:32 on Sat, 24
Nov 2012, Graeme Wall remarked:
If all the station has is a bit of passing country road, that's what
they need to use. The contract won't require the bus operator to
install
a bus stop.

It will require them to stop at a designated place.

"Second tree along from the bend in the road, next to the muddy grass
verge"? Because that's all there is.


All that you notice. Far more likely will be defined with reference to
the station.


"Second tree from the station" then. Still a muddy grass verge.


But an official muddy grass verge.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

Graeme Wall November 24th 12 05:40 PM

Drivers telling passengers to use the emergency buttons...
 
On 24/11/2012 18:25, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 15:33:07 on Sat, 24
Nov 2012, Graeme Wall remarked:

Read the T&Cs

The ones that say if me getting off the bus delays it another few
seconds[1], none of the other passengers can sue either? Those T&C?


No the real ones,


Which say what? No, don't answer that, you never do.


All right, I won't if you insist.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

Portsmouth Rider November 24th 12 06:11 PM

Drivers telling passengers to use the emergency buttons...
 

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 15:31:37 on Sat, 24 Nov
2012, Graeme Wall remarked:

But it's not a local bus service. It's an emergency bustitution.


So therefore it can't use the local bus stops.


But neither is it prohibited. Unless the bit of road in question has a
sign saying "No Stopping - except local buses", which they don't.


You seem to have some difficulty in comprehension. The prohibition in
stopping at unofficial bus stops is nothing to with Road Traffic signs or
law, but everything to with the licence issued by the Traffic Commissioners
(or not issued, as the case may be.)

A bus that is on a Lo-cal Bus Ser-vice can stop at a Bus Stop, In fact it
must do so if a man on the bus wants it to, to get off. Or if a man wants to
get on the bus.

A bus that is on Rail Work must stop at the place that is on the Con-tract,
and must not stop at any oth-er place to set down or pick up.

Now I appreciate that three of those words run into two sysllables, but I
have hyphenated them for you to make it easier for you to understand. The
rest are monosyllabylic and so should not present you with too much of a
problem.

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Portsmouthrider




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