"Charles Ellson" wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 23:40:00 -0000, "michael adams"
wrote:


wrote in message
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No reporter can be expected to know the intricacies of every
subject
but a good one should have the skill to research and check. More
and
more of the upcoming crop seem unable to do so .

The "upcoming crop" could write anything the market demanded,
providing they were given sufficient time to do so. As far as
current management is concerned, there's no point in allowing
staff to waste Company time in researching anything in depth,
when most of their efforts would be over the heads of 95% of
their intended readership.

In the current environment, in both print and broadcasting
the primary requirement is to fill space or time at the lowest
possible cost. And its only those often unpaid trainees who
can fulfil that need most efficiently, and to order, who will
land any permanent jobs that are going.

In the present context Aldwych Station will indeed be
a "secret" to the majority of visitors to the "Mail"
website, most of whom will probably never have visited
London in their lives. While words such as "secret", "ghost",
and "mystery" while clichéd, can still stimulate reader
interest when used in connection with topics such
as the Underground.

So the word "secret" is defined by reference to the ignorance of
Daily
(Hurrah for the Blackshirts!) Mail readers ?

All words are defined by reference to the assumed knowledge and
preconceptions of the intended readership. Otherwise they won't
be interested in reading what you've written, your website will
get fewer hits, your advertisers will be demanding rate cuts,
and you will go out of business.

Your "Hurrah for the Blackshirts" reference there, is interesting.
The original article was written by Rotheremere the increasing
eccentric surviving Harmsworth brother in 1934. Who was on nodding
terms with both Hitler and Mussolini. Support for Moseley was dropped
in that very same year. As a matter of interest do you think this
change of policy was instigated so as to increase circulation
among the Mail's supposedly BUF supporting readership ?

By and large newspapers along with all media will only prosper
by providing their audience with what they want to read or hear.
Readers don't want to be preached at or hectored and will simply
move elsewhere. The same applied to the original U.K tabloids as
conceived by Harmsworth, the "Daily Mail" and the "Daily Mirror"
the latter changed within a year, as it does to any of Murdoch's
titles. They can only succeed by reflecting the public mood -
inconvenient as this can be, for some people to acknowledge.

Sunny Jim may never have actually uttered the words "Crisis
what Crisis" (Larry Lamb) but it was Sunny Jim, ignoring all
advice who insisted on holding a press conference at Heathrow
regaling the assembled hacks with accounts of being able
to swim for hours on end in the warm waters of Guadaloupe during
the Conference, while those in the UK froze.


michael adams

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On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 18:09:42 +0000
Phil Cook wrote:
On 03/12/2012 17:40, allantracy wrote:

For those of us, not London based, and whose world view of London owes
mostly (or even only) to the scale afforded by the Tube map, what was
the extent of the inconvenience (if any) that was caused by the
station closing.

In other words, how close is the nearest alternative?

Temple on the District/Circle is only 200m away.

Covent Garden and Holborn on the Picadilly are no more than 700m away.

A 700m walk through crowded london streets is actually quite a long way.

B2003

On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 20:19:14 +0000
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 18:09:42 on Mon, 3 Dec
2012, Phil Cook remarked:
For those of us, not London based, and whose world view of London owes
mostly (or even only) to the scale afforded by the Tube map, what was
the extent of the inconvenience (if any) that was caused by the
station closing.

In other words, how close is the nearest alternative?

Temple on the District/Circle is only 200m away.

Although anyone heading for Aldwych would have needed to go via Holborn,
so a diversion to Temple could be quite time consuming.

Covent Garden and Holborn on the Picadilly are no more than 700m away.

You could close Covent Garden if walking 200m (from Leicester Square)
isn't an issue.

I suspect if it wasn't for the huge volume of crowds travelling into that
part of town they probably would have long ago. Those lifts can't be cheap
to maintain.

B2003

In message , at 09:56:17 on Tue, 4 Dec
2012, d remarked:
You could close Covent Garden if walking 200m (from Leicester Square)
isn't an issue.

I suspect if it wasn't for the huge volume of crowds travelling into that
part of town they probably would have long ago. Those lifts can't be cheap
to maintain.

There are plenty of stations with much less passenger traffic where they
keep the lifts going. Goodge St, for example. It's close enough to both
Warren St and TCR that it's a bit of a luxury.
--
Roland Perry

On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 10:33:20 +0000
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 09:56:17 on Tue, 4 Dec
2012, d remarked:
You could close Covent Garden if walking 200m (from Leicester Square)
isn't an issue.

I suspect if it wasn't for the huge volume of crowds travelling into that
part of town they probably would have long ago. Those lifts can't be cheap
to maintain.

There are plenty of stations with much less passenger traffic where they
keep the lifts going. Goodge St, for example. It's close enough to both
Warren St and TCR that it's a bit of a luxury.

Its a pity the tube doesn't have local and express lines like the new york
subway. I know the met sort of has them but its not really the same thing
since its way out of the centre.

B2003

On 4 Dec, 11:49, wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 10:33:20 +0000

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 09:56:17 on Tue, 4 Dec
2012, remarked:
You could close Covent Garden if walking 200m (from Leicester Square)
isn't an issue.

I suspect if it wasn't for the huge volume of crowds travelling into that
part of town they probably would have long ago. Those lifts can't be cheap
to maintain.

There are plenty of stations with much less passenger traffic where they
keep the lifts going. Goodge St, for example. It's close enough to both
Warren St and TCR that it's a bit of a luxury.

Its a pity the tube doesn't have local and express lines like the new york
subway. I know the met sort of has them but its not really the same thing
since its way out of the centre.

This is something that could have been considered for Crossrail.
Crossrail could have had more stations, with express trains skipping
the "local" stations.

Of course costs would have risen exponentially.

On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 03:55:28 -0800 (PST)
77002 wrote:
This is something that could have been considered for Crossrail.
Crossrail could have had more stations, with express trains skipping
the "local" stations.

Of course costs would have risen exponentially.

Crossrail should have gone with double decker trains. The bullet should just
have been bitten and regauge all the pre-existing lines it'll run on to
UIC gauge. It would cost a lot in the short term but the long term gains would
almost certainly make it worth it.

B2003

Oddly, ISTR that the daily closings of Aldwych were performed by the
Station Supervisor at St Paul's station.

On 4 Dec, 12:18, wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 03:55:28 -0800 (PST)

77002 wrote:
This is something that could have been considered for Crossrail.
Crossrail could have had more stations, with express trains skipping
the "local" stations.

Of course costs would have risen exponentially.

Crossrail should have gone with double decker trains. The bullet should just
have been bitten and regauge all the pre-existing lines it'll run on to
UIC gauge. It would cost a lot in the short term but the long term gains would
almost certainly make it worth it.

That would probably have lengthened load/unloading times.

In message , at 11:49:09 on Tue, 4 Dec
2012, d remarked:
There are plenty of stations with much less passenger traffic where they
keep the lifts going. Goodge St, for example. It's close enough to both
Warren St and TCR that it's a bit of a luxury.

Its a pity the tube doesn't have local and express lines like the new york
subway. I know the met sort of has them but its not really the same thing
since its way out of the centre.

There was, of course, a pre-war plan to have just such an express line
paralleling the Northern Line. And hence the bunker (in the vacant
station tunnels) at Goodge St.
--
Roland Perry