Dear all

Maybe I'm not fully awake at 0700 on a Sunday – althoughI have already
done some work – but I've spent 15-20 fruitless minutes trying to find
one important detail of the upcoming steam runs:

Where's the best place to watch them.

Searching Usenet and Web have found information about the panel
discussion, about the loco and carriages, a dash of history, lots of
useless junk and of cours a dash of pedantry. And far be it from me as
a former newspaper subeditor, who would refer to the Games of the XXX
Olympiad taking place in several stadia, to decry the latter.

But right now I don't want to debate the social politics of a
particular newspaper, the culinary skills or otherwise of a Rubenesque
woman whose father was a politician, and far less do I want to amuse
myself with the debate of nomenclature of public transport systems.

What I DO want to do is know where to go with cameras – and when – to
watch what promises to be an interesting event. And if at least one
such location and time would be suitable for an old chap with limited
mobility, so much the better.

Given the wealth of information and knowledge propogated here, I look
forward to someone pointing me in the appropriate direction.

And BTW, for those who believe the Daily Mail to be a worthless
publication, today's [online] edition has an interesting lead


Thousands are hit by fare hikes... but not the rail minister who spends
£80,000 on a CHAUFFEUR for his 35-mile commute

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...e-commute.html



Many thanks

Kenw

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Dear all

Maybe I'm not fully awake at 0700 on a Sunday – althoughI have already done
some work – but I've spent 15-20 fruitless minutes trying to find one
important detail of the upcoming steam runs:

Where's the best place to watch them.

Searching Usenet and Web have found information about the panel discussion,
about the loco and carriages, a dash of history, lots of useless junk and of
cours a dash of pedantry. And far be it from me as a former newspaper
subeditor, who would refer to the Games of the XXX Olympiad taking place in
several stadia, to decry the latter.

But right now I don't want to debate the social politics of a particular
newspaper, the culinary skills or otherwise of a Rubenesque woman whose
father was a politician, and far less do I want to amuse myself with the
debate of nomenclature of public transport systems.

What I DO want to do is know where to go with cameras – and when – to watch
what promises to be an interesting event. And if at least one such location
and time would be suitable for an old chap with limited mobility, so much
the better.

Given the wealth of information and knowledge propogated here, I look
forward to someone pointing me in the appropriate direction.

And BTW, for those who believe the Daily Mail to be a worthless publication,
today's [online] edition has an interesting lead


Thousands are hit by fare hikes... but not the rail minister who spends
£80,000 on a CHAUFFEUR for his 35-mile commute

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...e-commute.html


Many thanks

Kenw

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I've been wondering the same thing and come to the conclusion that there is
no easy answer. There are a few overbridges, particularly between Olympia
and Earls Court but they have high walls and I suspect they will have quite
a few adherents. Olympia itself is a possibility but how many others will
have the same idea? So we're left with the stations along the route and
they're a complete unknown because TfL have said nothing about how they plan
to control crowds. My preferred stations would be Baker St (nice period
atmosphere), High St Ken (some outdoor running at the south end of the
station and one other I won't name because I think it's where I might end
up!

In message , at 11:05:16 on
Sun, 6 Jan 2013, Graham Harrison
remarked:
My preferred stations would be Baker St (nice period atmosphere), High
St Ken (some outdoor running at the south end of the station and one
other I won't name because I think it's where I might end up!

Farringdon looks like the best (for viewing from outside a station).

There were rumours the platforms en-route would be subject to crowd
control (or even closed altogether to the public, but I expect there
will be opportunities for professional filming and VIPs).
--
Roland Perry

Thanks, Roland, Paul

If Farringdon is the best bet, what's the ETA - someone [whose initials
might be PC?] must know.



On 2013-01-06 11:57:47 +0000, Roland Perry said:

In message , at 11:05:16 on
Sun, 6 Jan 2013, Graham Harrison
remarked:
My preferred stations would be Baker St (nice period atmosphere), High
St Ken (some outdoor running at the south end of the station and one
other I won't name because I think it's where I might end up!

Farringdon looks like the best (for viewing from outside a station).

There were rumours the platforms en-route would be subject to crowd
control (or even closed altogether to the public, but I expect there
will be opportunities for professional filming and VIPs).

Would there be a different recommendation for those in lawful possession of a Tube uniform?

"kenw" wrote in message
news:2013010620372488279-email@domaincom...
Thanks, Roland, Paul

If Farringdon is the best bet, what's the ETA - someone [whose initials
might be PC?] must know.



On 2013-01-06 11:57:47 +0000, Roland Perry said:

In message , at 11:05:16 on Sun,
6 Jan 2013, Graham Harrison
remarked:
My preferred stations would be Baker St (nice period atmosphere), High
St Ken (some outdoor running at the south end of the station and one
other I won't name because I think it's where I might end up!

Farringdon looks like the best (for viewing from outside a station).

There were rumours the platforms en-route would be subject to crowd
control (or even closed altogether to the public, but I expect there will
be opportunities for professional filming and VIPs).



I can't really see they would close the platforms unless they became
overcrowded, unless they're suspending the regular service. My best guess
is that there will be a limit (as there is anyway) to the numbers permitted
after which the station gates will be closed to entering passengers. In
any case if I want to see the 13/1 run at Baker St at 1222 and I board a
(inner) Circle at Mansion House say 30 minutes before (say 1152) and arrive
just before the special I'm there, in the system.

"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
...

I'm increasingly of the view that you stand little chance of being
able to get even a half decent shot of the train. Only one return run
is in daylight and that's the VIP trip next Sunday. Everything else is
in the pitch black which makes photography very difficult.

Olympia station will almost certainly be off limits unless you swear
on pain of death that you are travelling on the Overground

checks tfl website

except, of course, there is no service on the WLL next weekend so stn
access will be banned unless you count as a VIP or have a ticket for
the later run.

According to the Journey Planner the District line will still be running to
Olympia as normal (with the odd cancellation) so the station will be open
for normal passengers.

Peter Smyth

On 08/01/2013 08:51, Peter Smyth wrote:

According to the Journey Planner the District line will still be running
to Olympia as normal (with the odd cancellation) so the station will be
open for normal passengers.

So will TPTB be trying to distinguish between normals and us lot?


--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

Paul Corfield wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 08:51:22 -0000, "Peter Smyth"
wrote:

"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
...

I'm increasingly of the view that you stand little chance of being
able to get even a half decent shot of the train. Only one return run
is in daylight and that's the VIP trip next Sunday. Everything else is
in the pitch black which makes photography very difficult.

Olympia station will almost certainly be off limits unless you swear
on pain of death that you are travelling on the Overground

checks tfl website

except, of course, there is no service on the WLL next weekend so stn
access will be banned unless you count as a VIP or have a ticket for
the later run.

According to the Journey Planner the District line will still be running to
Olympia as normal (with the odd cancellation) so the station will be open
for normal passengers.

I rather expect only a small part will be open and not the long NR
platforms. Hopefully I am being unduly pessimistic.

BBC report:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20998737

Very interesting that a traditional Tory supporting paper is having a go at a Tory minister in a week, when the government would clearly prefer attention to be elsewhere. Given the complete lack of support from any colleagues it would seem that Mr Burns may have run out of friends and could be heading back to obscurity, other than a claim to fame of being a cousin of David Bowie...





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Dear all





And BTW, for those who believe the Daily Mail to be a worthless publication, today's [online] edition has an interesting lead



Thousands are hit by fare hikes... but not the rail minister who spends £80,000 on a CHAUFFEUR for his 35-mile commute

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...e-commute.html





Many thanks



Kenw



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