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antoine March 31st 13 04:10 PM

taxi fares in London
 
When I was in London 40 years ago, taxi fares were cheap. I used to
travel by taxi only short trips in the central area, but I remember
that it was not expensive at all. It was necessary to give a little tip
to the taxi driver otherwise he would say a lot of bad words to you.

How are nowadays the taxi fares? Still the same? Thank you

John Ray[_4_] March 31st 13 04:44 PM

taxi fares in London
 
On 31 Mar 2013 16:10:39 GMT, antoine wrote:

When I was in London 40 years ago, taxi fares were cheap. I used to
travel by taxi only short trips in the central area, but I remember
that it was not expensive at all. It was necessary to give a little tip
to the taxi driver otherwise he would say a lot of bad words to you.

How are nowadays the taxi fares? Still the same? Thank you


The fare tables can be found he
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/...axis/1140.aspx

--
John Ray

eastender[_4_] March 31st 13 05:25 PM

taxi fares in London
 
On 2013-03-31 16:44:17 +0000, John Ray said:

How are nowadays the taxi fares? Still the same? Thank you


The fare tables can be found he
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/...axis/1140.aspx


The fares guide is rather optimistically low - in recent trips I've
paid about £8 more than than the 'max' £21 4 mile/30 min trip to and
from the eastern edge of N1 to W1 (Green Park area). £30 when you add
in tips.

E.





Recliner[_2_] March 31st 13 07:33 PM

taxi fares in London
 
eastender wrote:
On 2013-03-31 16:44:17 +0000, John Ray said:

How are nowadays the taxi fares? Still the same? Thank you
The fare tables can be found he

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/...axis/1140.aspx


The fares guide is rather optimistically low - in recent trips I've paid
about £8 more than than the 'max' £21 4 mile/30 min trip to and from the
eastern edge of N1 to W1 (Green Park area). £30 when you add in tips.

Yes, the fares today seem very expensive. Mini cabs are much cheaper, but
do have to be pre-booked (or at least phoned for, rather than hailed on the
street).

Basil Jet[_3_] March 31st 13 08:18 PM

taxi fares in London
 
On 2013\03\31 17:10, antoine wrote:
When I was in London 40 years ago, taxi fares were cheap. I used to
travel by taxi only short trips in the central area, but I remember
that it was not expensive at all. It was necessary to give a little tip
to the taxi driver otherwise he would say a lot of bad words to you.

How are nowadays the taxi fares? Still the same? Thank you


About 10 times as much as in Delhi, but about half as much as in Zurich.

http://www.priceoftravel.com/555/wor...72-big-cities/

eastender[_4_] March 31st 13 09:13 PM

taxi fares in London
 
On 2013-03-31 19:33:49 +0000, Recliner said:

Yes, the fares today seem very expensive. Mini cabs are much cheaper, but
do have to be pre-booked (or at least phoned for, rather than hailed on the
street).


You can book black cabs too - as I've done on the last two trips - and
I've just realised that a booking fee may have been added to the fare.
Still, £60 to get five of us to and from the west end in the pouring
rain seems a reasonable deal.

E.



Offramp April 1st 13 09:04 AM

taxi fares in London
 
Transport for London staff receive a 60% discount on taxi fares. Drivers cannot be expected to have to learn the large amount of staff passes, so instead a password and sign have been arranged.
It is therefore necessary for me to tell you what that word is:
Point with your index finger to your sternum and say loudly, "Daktari."
Your discount will then be applied.

Basil Jet[_3_] April 1st 13 10:45 AM

taxi fares in London
 
On 2013\04\01 10:04, Offramp wrote:
Transport for London staff receive a 60% discount on taxi fares. Drivers cannot be expected to have to learn the large amount of staff passes, so instead a password and sign have been arranged.
It is therefore necessary for me to tell you what that word is:
Point with your index finger to your sternum and say loudly, "Daktari."
Your discount will then be applied.


I don't think you're allowed to do April Fool on foreigners.

tim..... April 1st 13 12:35 PM

taxi fares in London
 

"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...
On 2013\03\31 17:10, antoine wrote:
When I was in London 40 years ago, taxi fares were cheap. I used to
travel by taxi only short trips in the central area, but I remember
that it was not expensive at all. It was necessary to give a little tip
to the taxi driver otherwise he would say a lot of bad words to you.

How are nowadays the taxi fares? Still the same? Thank you


About 10 times as much as in Delhi, but about half as much as in Zurich.

http://www.priceoftravel.com/555/wor...72-big-cities/


Though completely ignored from that study is whether the fares are regulated
or not

In London they are and you will be guaranteed to pay the same price for any
specific journey whichever cab you jump into -and don't even think about not
getting into the one at the front of the queue

That won't happen in Stockholm where, apart from a requirement to actually
display the price - it is a free for all, so wandering down the queue is
normal (well if you are of the tiny subset paying the fare yourself!).

tim








[email protected] April 1st 13 02:55 PM

taxi fares in London
 
On 31/03/2013 17:10, antoine wrote:
When I was in London 40 years ago, taxi fares were cheap. I used to
travel by taxi only short trips in the central area, but I remember
that it was not expensive at all. It was necessary to give a little tip
to the taxi driver otherwise he would say a lot of bad words to you.

How are nowadays the taxi fares? Still the same? Thank you


There is no set tip, as in New York City, BTW. I normally just round up
and add £1.

[email protected] April 1st 13 02:56 PM

taxi fares in London
 
On 01/04/2013 13:35, tim..... wrote:

"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...
On 2013\03\31 17:10, antoine wrote:
When I was in London 40 years ago, taxi fares were cheap. I used to
travel by taxi only short trips in the central area, but I remember
that it was not expensive at all. It was necessary to give a little tip
to the taxi driver otherwise he would say a lot of bad words to you.

How are nowadays the taxi fares? Still the same? Thank you


About 10 times as much as in Delhi, but about half as much as in Zurich.

http://www.priceoftravel.com/555/wor...72-big-cities/


Though completely ignored from that study is whether the fares are
regulated or not

In London they are and you will be guaranteed to pay the same price for
any specific journey whichever cab you jump into -and don't even think
about not getting into the one at the front of the queue


I think that this is fair, though, and I have seen that in other places.



[email protected] April 1st 13 02:57 PM

taxi fares in London
 
On 31/03/2013 20:33, Recliner wrote:
eastender wrote:
On 2013-03-31 16:44:17 +0000, John Ray said:

How are nowadays the taxi fares? Still the same? Thank you
The fare tables can be found he
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/...axis/1140.aspx


The fares guide is rather optimistically low - in recent trips I've paid
about £8 more than than the 'max' £21 4 mile/30 min trip to and from the
eastern edge of N1 to W1 (Green Park area). £30 when you add in tips.

Yes, the fares today seem very expensive. Mini cabs are much cheaper, but
do have to be pre-booked (or at least phoned for, rather than hailed on the
street).


They also don't have the right to use the bus lanes, whereas black cabs do.

Recliner[_2_] April 1st 13 03:06 PM

taxi fares in London
 
" wrote:
On 31/03/2013 20:33, Recliner wrote:
eastender wrote:
On 2013-03-31 16:44:17 +0000, John Ray said:

How are nowadays the taxi fares? Still the same? Thank you
The fare tables can be found he
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/...axis/1140.aspx

The fares guide is rather optimistically low - in recent trips I've paid
about £8 more than than the 'max' £21 4 mile/30 min trip to and from the
eastern edge of N1 to W1 (Green Park area). £30 when you add in tips.

Yes, the fares today seem very expensive. Mini cabs are much cheaper, but
do have to be pre-booked (or at least phoned for, rather than hailed on the
street).


They also don't have the right to use the bus lanes, whereas black cabs do.


True. Do black cabs have to pay the cc?

Roland Perry April 1st 13 03:21 PM

taxi fares in London
 
In message

, at 10:06:35 on Mon, 1 Apr 2013, Recliner
remarked:
They also don't have the right to use the bus lanes, whereas black cabs do.


True. Do black cabs have to pay the cc?


TfL: "You are also exempt if your vehicle is a London licensed minicab
or taxi (licensed with TfL Taxi and Private Hire)."
--
Roland Perry

Recliner[_2_] April 1st 13 03:28 PM

taxi fares in London
 
Roland Perry wrote:
In message
, at 10:06:35 on Mon, 1 Apr 2013, Recliner remarked:
They also don't have the right to use the bus lanes, whereas black cabs do.


True. Do black cabs have to pay the cc?


TfL: "You are also exempt if your vehicle is a London licensed minicab or
taxi (licensed with TfL Taxi and Private Hire)."


I think my local (suburban) minicabs do have to pay the cc, even though
they're TfL licensed, so I wonder which minicabs are exempt? Perhaps they
have to be based in central London?

Roland Perry April 1st 13 03:41 PM

taxi fares in London
 
In message

, at 10:28:42 on Mon, 1 Apr 2013, Recliner

remarked:
They also don't have the right to use the bus lanes, whereas black cabs do.

True. Do black cabs have to pay the cc?


TfL: "You are also exempt if your vehicle is a London licensed minicab or
taxi (licensed with TfL Taxi and Private Hire)."


I think my local (suburban) minicabs do have to pay the cc, even though
they're TfL licensed, so I wonder which minicabs are exempt? Perhaps they
have to be based in central London?


The TfL site does not give the impression there's any such
discrimination (assuming they are both registered with TTPH).
--
Roland Perry

[email protected] April 1st 13 04:15 PM

taxi fares in London
 
On 01/04/2013 16:28, Recliner wrote:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message
, at 10:06:35 on Mon, 1 Apr 2013, Recliner remarked:
They also don't have the right to use the bus lanes, whereas black cabs do.

True. Do black cabs have to pay the cc?


TfL: "You are also exempt if your vehicle is a London licensed minicab or
taxi (licensed with TfL Taxi and Private Hire)."


I think my local (suburban) minicabs do have to pay the cc, even though
they're TfL licensed, so I wonder which minicabs are exempt? Perhaps they
have to be based in central London?


Are they outside of London proper? That would be the reason, I imagine.

[email protected] April 1st 13 04:19 PM

taxi fares in London
 
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message
,
at 10:28:42 on Mon, 1 Apr 2013, Recliner
remarked:
They also don't have the right to use the bus lanes, whereas black
cabs do.

True. Do black cabs have to pay the cc?

TfL: "You are also exempt if your vehicle is a London licensed minicab
or taxi (licensed with TfL Taxi and Private Hire)."


I think my local (suburban) minicabs do have to pay the cc, even though
they're TfL licensed, so I wonder which minicabs are exempt? Perhaps they
have to be based in central London?


The TfL site does not give the impression there's any such
discrimination (assuming they are both registered with TTPH).


Strange. There are different sorts of taxi licences at least.

Colin Rosenstiel

Recliner[_2_] April 1st 13 04:21 PM

taxi fares in London
 
" wrote:
On 01/04/2013 16:28, Recliner wrote:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message
, at 10:06:35 on Mon, 1 Apr 2013, Recliner remarked:
They also don't have the right to use the bus lanes, whereas black cabs do.

True. Do black cabs have to pay the cc?

TfL: "You are also exempt if your vehicle is a London licensed minicab or
taxi (licensed with TfL Taxi and Private Hire)."


I think my local (suburban) minicabs do have to pay the cc, even though
they're TfL licensed, so I wonder which minicabs are exempt? Perhaps they
have to be based in central London?


Are they outside of London proper? That would be the reason, I imagine.


Definitely in the TfL licensed minicab area, but also about eight miles
from the cc area.

[email protected] April 1st 13 04:28 PM

taxi fares in London
 
In article , () wrote:

On 01/04/2013 16:28, Recliner wrote:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message

,
at 10:06:35 on Mon, 1 Apr 2013, Recliner
remarked:
They also don't have the right to use the bus lanes, whereas black
cabs do.

True. Do black cabs have to pay the cc?

TfL: "You are also exempt if your vehicle is a London licensed minicab
or taxi (licensed with TfL Taxi and Private Hire)."


I think my local (suburban) minicabs do have to pay the cc, even though
they're TfL licensed, so I wonder which minicabs are exempt? Perhaps
they have to be based in central London?


Are they outside of London proper? That would be the reason, I
imagine.


Unlikely. Taxi and hire car legislation in London is quite different from
that outside.

Colin Rosenstiel

Roland Perry April 1st 13 05:30 PM

taxi fares in London
 
In message , at 11:19:11
on Mon, 1 Apr 2013, remarked:
I think my local (suburban) minicabs do have to pay the cc, even though
they're TfL licensed, so I wonder which minicabs are exempt? Perhaps they
have to be based in central London?


The TfL site does not give the impression there's any such
discrimination (assuming they are both registered with TTPH).


Strange. There are different sorts of taxi licences at least.


For minicabs based in the central TfL area, rather than the outer TfL
area? Where is this inner/outer thing defined.
--
Roland Perry

[email protected] April 1st 13 06:45 PM

taxi fares in London
 
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
11:19:11 on Mon, 1 Apr 2013,
remarked:
I think my local (suburban) minicabs do have to pay the cc, even
though they're TfL licensed, so I wonder which minicabs are exempt?
Perhaps they have to be based in central London?

The TfL site does not give the impression there's any such
discrimination (assuming they are both registered with TTPH).


Strange. There are different sorts of taxi licences at least.


For minicabs based in the central TfL area, rather than the outer TfL
area? Where is this inner/outer thing defined.


For black cabs. Some appear to have licences limited to suburban ranks or
the like.

Colin Rosenstiel

Roland Perry April 1st 13 07:42 PM

taxi fares in London
 
In message , at 13:45:16
on Mon, 1 Apr 2013, remarked:
I think my local (suburban) minicabs do have to pay the cc, even
though they're TfL licensed, so I wonder which minicabs are exempt?
Perhaps they have to be based in central London?

The TfL site does not give the impression there's any such
discrimination (assuming they are both registered with TTPH).

Strange. There are different sorts of taxi licences at least.


For minicabs based in the central TfL area, rather than the outer TfL
area? Where is this inner/outer thing defined.


For black cabs. Some appear to have licences limited to suburban ranks or
the like.


That doesn't help answer the question about minicabs :(
--
Roland Perry

Basil Jet[_3_] April 2nd 13 06:46 AM

taxi fares in London
 
On 2013\04\01 16:28, Recliner wrote:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message
, at 10:06:35 on Mon, 1 Apr 2013, Recliner remarked:
They also don't have the right to use the bus lanes, whereas black cabs do.

True. Do black cabs have to pay the cc?


TfL: "You are also exempt if your vehicle is a London licensed minicab or
taxi (licensed with TfL Taxi and Private Hire)."


I think my local (suburban) minicabs do have to pay the cc, even though
they're TfL licensed, so I wonder which minicabs are exempt? Perhaps they
have to be based in central London?


All London licensed minicabs are exempt from the CC. Anyone can get any
vehicle, even a pickup truck, registered as a minicab and so become
exempt from CC without being involved in any minicab company. If some
company is telling the passenger that they have to pay it so that they
can pass that charge on to the passenger, you should name and shame the
company, because either they are passing on a non-existent charge
(immoral and possibly illegal) or they are using vehicles which are not
licensed as minicabs (illegal).

Basil Jet[_3_] April 2nd 13 06:52 AM

taxi fares in London
 
On 2013\04\01 17:19, wrote:
In article ,
(Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message
,
at 10:28:42 on Mon, 1 Apr 2013, Recliner
remarked:
They also don't have the right to use the bus lanes, whereas black
cabs do.

True. Do black cabs have to pay the cc?

TfL: "You are also exempt if your vehicle is a London licensed minicab
or taxi (licensed with TfL Taxi and Private Hire)."

I think my local (suburban) minicabs do have to pay the cc, even though
they're TfL licensed, so I wonder which minicabs are exempt? Perhaps they
have to be based in central London?


The TfL site does not give the impression there's any such
discrimination (assuming they are both registered with TTPH).


Strange. There are different sorts of taxi licences at least.


No. London has 10 different taxi driver licences available for new taxi
drivers giving entitlement to work in different areas because they have
done different knowledges, but there is only one type of London taxi
license available for taxi vehicles, and it is the latter which is
registered as exempt from the CC.

Basil Jet[_3_] April 2nd 13 07:02 AM

taxi fares in London
 
On 2013\04\02 07:52, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2013\04\01 17:19, wrote:

Strange. There are different sorts of taxi licences at least.


No. London has 10 different taxi driver licences available for new taxi
drivers giving entitlement to work in different areas because they have
done different knowledges, but there is only one type of London taxi
license available for taxi vehicles, and it is the latter which is
registered as exempt from the CC.


Correction: 2 or 3 of these areas are not accepting new drivers,
allegedly due to oversupply of drivers. As a further clarification of
the above, the same taxi might be used by a Central London driver one
day and by a suburban driver the next, but the CC people are not
informed about the driver because it is the vehicle which is exempt.

John Ray[_4_] April 2nd 13 08:11 AM

taxi fares in London
 
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:33:49 -0500, Recliner
wrote:

eastender wrote:
On 2013-03-31 16:44:17 +0000, John Ray said:

How are nowadays the taxi fares? Still the same? Thank you
The fare tables can be found he
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/...axis/1140.aspx


The fares guide is rather optimistically low - in recent trips I've paid
about £8 more than than the 'max' £21 4 mile/30 min trip to and from the
eastern edge of N1 to W1 (Green Park area). £30 when you add in tips.

Yes, the fares today seem very expensive. Mini cabs are much cheaper, but
do have to be pre-booked (or at least phoned for, rather than hailed on the
street).


For short distances a black cab can be cheaper than a minicab. My
local minicab company has a minimum fare of £4, whereas the black cab
minimum is £2.40.

--
John Ray

[email protected] April 2nd 13 07:34 PM

taxi fares in London
 
On 02/04/2013 07:46, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2013\04\01 16:28, Recliner wrote:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message


, at 10:06:35 on Mon, 1 Apr 2013, Recliner
remarked:
They also don't have the right to use the bus lanes, whereas black
cabs do.

True. Do black cabs have to pay the cc?

TfL: "You are also exempt if your vehicle is a London licensed
minicab or
taxi (licensed with TfL Taxi and Private Hire)."


I think my local (suburban) minicabs do have to pay the cc, even though
they're TfL licensed, so I wonder which minicabs are exempt? Perhaps
they
have to be based in central London?


All London licensed minicabs are exempt from the CC. Anyone can get any
vehicle, even a pickup truck, registered as a minicab and so become
exempt from CC without being involved in any minicab company. If some
company is telling the passenger that they have to pay it so that they
can pass that charge on to the passenger, you should name and shame the
company, because either they are passing on a non-existent charge
(immoral and possibly illegal) or they are using vehicles which are not
licensed as minicabs (illegal).


Ryanair CEO Michael O'Leary does something like that, thus allowing him
to use the bus lanes in Dublin.

David Cantrell April 3rd 13 10:45 AM

taxi fares in London
 
On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 07:46:16AM +0100, Basil Jet wrote:

All London licensed minicabs are exempt from the CC. Anyone can get any
vehicle, even a pickup truck, registered as a minicab and so become
exempt from CC without being involved in any minicab company. If some
company is telling the passenger that they have to pay it so that they
can pass that charge on to the passenger, you should name and shame the
company, because either they are passing on a non-existent charge
(immoral and possibly illegal) or they are using vehicles which are not
licensed as minicabs (illegal).


Or they're one of the unfortunates who are based just outside the CC
area, so are legal and licenced but not licenced by the PCO, and have
lots of their business taking people into town. Now, obviously they
can't just pick people up off the street, but AFAIK it *is* kosher for
someone living in the CC area who wants to go to, say, Guildford, to
phone a cab company in Guildford and ask them to pick him up. I've
certainly done it anyway, phoning a taxi company based in Caterham
to come and pick me up in London.

--
David Cantrell | Pope | First Church of the Symmetrical Internet

The word "urgent" is the moral of the story "The boy who cried wolf". As
a general rule I don't believe it until a manager comes to me almost in
tears. I like to catch them in a cup and drink them later.
-- Matt Holiab, in the Monastery

Recliner[_2_] April 4th 13 12:27 PM

taxi fares in London
 
On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 09:11:04 +0100, John Ray wrote:

On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:33:49 -0500, Recliner
wrote:

eastender wrote:
On 2013-03-31 16:44:17 +0000, John Ray said:

How are nowadays the taxi fares? Still the same? Thank you
The fare tables can be found he
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/...axis/1140.aspx

The fares guide is rather optimistically low - in recent trips I've paid
about £8 more than than the 'max' £21 4 mile/30 min trip to and from the
eastern edge of N1 to W1 (Green Park area). £30 when you add in tips.

Yes, the fares today seem very expensive. Mini cabs are much cheaper, but
do have to be pre-booked (or at least phoned for, rather than hailed on the
street).


For short distances a black cab can be cheaper than a minicab. My
local minicab company has a minimum fare of £4, whereas the black cab
minimum is £2.40.


How far would you get for £2.40 in a black cab, or even £4?

[email protected] April 4th 13 02:41 PM

taxi fares in London
 
In article ,
(Recliner) wrote:

On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 09:11:04 +0100, John Ray wrote:

On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:33:49 -0500, Recliner
wrote:

eastender wrote:
On 2013-03-31 16:44:17 +0000, John Ray said:

How are nowadays the taxi fares? Still the same? Thank you
The fare tables can be found he
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/...axis/1140.aspx

The fares guide is rather optimistically low - in recent trips I've
paid about £8 more than than the 'max' £21 4 mile/30 min trip to and
from the eastern edge of N1 to W1 (Green Park area). £30 when you add
in tips.

Yes, the fares today seem very expensive. Mini cabs are much cheaper,
but do have to be pre-booked (or at least phoned for, rather than
hailed on the street).


For short distances a black cab can be cheaper than a minicab. My
local minicab company has a minimum fare of £4, whereas the black cab
minimum is £2.40.


How far would you get for £2.40 in a black cab, or even £4?


It's £2.40 for the first 259.8 metres or 55.8 seconds (whichever is reached
first) according to the TfL web site. Then:

For each additional 129.9 metres or 27.9 seconds (whichever is reached
first), or part thereof, if the fare is less than £17.00 then there is a
charge of 20p

Once the fare is £17.00 or greater then there is a charge of 20p for each
additional 91.1 metres or 19.6 seconds (whichever is reached first), or part
thereof

See
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/...fares/4870.asp
x.

Recliner[_2_] April 4th 13 02:56 PM

taxi fares in London
 
wrote:
In article ,
(Recliner) wrote:

On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 09:11:04 +0100, John Ray wrote:

On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:33:49 -0500, Recliner
wrote:

eastender wrote:
On 2013-03-31 16:44:17 +0000, John Ray said:

How are nowadays the taxi fares? Still the same? Thank you
The fare tables can be found he
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/...axis/1140.aspx

The fares guide is rather optimistically low - in recent trips I've
paid about £8 more than than the 'max' £21 4 mile/30 min trip to and
from the eastern edge of N1 to W1 (Green Park area). £30 when you add
in tips.

Yes, the fares today seem very expensive. Mini cabs are much cheaper,
but do have to be pre-booked (or at least phoned for, rather than
hailed on the street).

For short distances a black cab can be cheaper than a minicab. My
local minicab company has a minimum fare of £4, whereas the black cab
minimum is £2.40.


How far would you get for £2.40 in a black cab, or even £4?


It's £2.40 for the first 259.8 metres or 55.8 seconds (whichever is reached
first) according to the TfL web site. Then:

For each additional 129.9 metres or 27.9 seconds (whichever is reached
first), or part thereof, if the fare is less than £17.00 then there is a
charge of 20p

Once the fare is £17.00 or greater then there is a charge of 20p for each
additional 91.1 metres or 19.6 seconds (whichever is reached first), or part
thereof

See
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/...fares/4870.asp
x.

So, roughly speaking, the £4 minicab minimum would get you about a mile in
a black cab? I assume a minicab would take you about twice as far. As for
the £2.40 black cab minimum, it would probably take you less than three
minutes walk, so hardly worth hailing a taxi for anyone who's not disabled.

James Heaton[_3_] April 4th 13 05:41 PM

taxi fares in London
 

"Recliner" wrote in message
...
wrote:
In article ,
(Recliner) wrote:

On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 09:11:04 +0100, John Ray wrote:

On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:33:49 -0500, Recliner
wrote:

eastender wrote:
On 2013-03-31 16:44:17 +0000, John Ray said:

How are nowadays the taxi fares? Still the same? Thank you
The fare tables can be found he
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/...axis/1140.aspx

The fares guide is rather optimistically low - in recent trips I've
paid about £8 more than than the 'max' £21 4 mile/30 min trip to and
from the eastern edge of N1 to W1 (Green Park area). £30 when you add
in tips.

Yes, the fares today seem very expensive. Mini cabs are much cheaper,
but do have to be pre-booked (or at least phoned for, rather than
hailed on the street).

For short distances a black cab can be cheaper than a minicab. My
local minicab company has a minimum fare of £4, whereas the black cab
minimum is £2.40.

How far would you get for £2.40 in a black cab, or even £4?


It's £2.40 for the first 259.8 metres or 55.8 seconds (whichever is
reached
first) according to the TfL web site. Then:

For each additional 129.9 metres or 27.9 seconds (whichever is reached
first), or part thereof, if the fare is less than £17.00 then there is a
charge of 20p

Once the fare is £17.00 or greater then there is a charge of 20p for each
additional 91.1 metres or 19.6 seconds (whichever is reached first), or
part
thereof

See
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/...fares/4870.asp
x.

So, roughly speaking, the £4 minicab minimum would get you about a mile in
a black cab? I assume a minicab would take you about twice as far. As for
the £2.40 black cab minimum, it would probably take you less than three
minutes walk, so hardly worth hailing a taxi for anyone who's not
disabled.


£4 will buy 1299 metres in a black cab - just over 3/4 mile (works out to
3.25 laps of an athletics track, where a mile race is 4 laps.)

That assumes the cheapest rate 1, which is weekday daytime and early
evening. Mon-Fri evening and weekend daytime would get you 1054 metres -
2.64 laps. The highest rate 3 - late night and public holidays - 850
metres, and we are down to 2.13 laps.

So yes - unless special circumstances apply (unable to walk much distance,
pouring with rain, no coat and can't wait, masses of luggage) - unlikely to
be used by most people. (And I did check - no extra for luggage!)

James


[email protected] April 4th 13 07:22 PM

taxi fares in London
 
On 04/04/2013 15:56, Recliner wrote:
wrote:
In article ,
(Recliner) wrote:

On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 09:11:04 +0100, John Ray wrote:

On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:33:49 -0500, Recliner
wrote:

eastender wrote:
On 2013-03-31 16:44:17 +0000, John Ray said:

How are nowadays the taxi fares? Still the same? Thank you
The fare tables can be found he
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/...axis/1140.aspx

The fares guide is rather optimistically low - in recent trips I've
paid about £8 more than than the 'max' £21 4 mile/30 min trip to and
from the eastern edge of N1 to W1 (Green Park area). £30 when you add
in tips.

Yes, the fares today seem very expensive. Mini cabs are much cheaper,
but do have to be pre-booked (or at least phoned for, rather than
hailed on the street).

For short distances a black cab can be cheaper than a minicab. My
local minicab company has a minimum fare of £4, whereas the black cab
minimum is £2.40.

How far would you get for £2.40 in a black cab, or even £4?


It's £2.40 for the first 259.8 metres or 55.8 seconds (whichever is reached
first) according to the TfL web site. Then:

For each additional 129.9 metres or 27.9 seconds (whichever is reached
first), or part thereof, if the fare is less than £17.00 then there is a
charge of 20p

Once the fare is £17.00 or greater then there is a charge of 20p for each
additional 91.1 metres or 19.6 seconds (whichever is reached first), or part
thereof

See
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/...fares/4870.asp
x.

So, roughly speaking, the £4 minicab minimum would get you about a mile in
a black cab? I assume a minicab would take you about twice as far. As for
the £2.40 black cab minimum, it would probably take you less than three
minutes walk, so hardly worth hailing a taxi for anyone who's not disabled.

I think that many drivers would be reluctant to take somebody under
those conditions, unless they were indeed disabled.

[email protected] April 4th 13 08:33 PM

taxi fares in London
 
In article , () wrote:

So, roughly speaking, the £4 minicab minimum would get you about a mile
in a black cab? I assume a minicab would take you about twice as far. As
for the £2.40 black cab minimum, it would probably take you less than
three minutes walk, so hardly worth hailing a taxi for anyone who's not
disabled.

I think that many drivers would be reluctant to take somebody under
those conditions, unless they were indeed disabled.


They have to, by law.

Colin Rosenstiel

Peter Smyth April 4th 13 09:22 PM

taxi fares in London
 
"Recliner" wrote in message
...

For short distances a black cab can be cheaper than a minicab. My
local minicab company has a minimum fare of £4, whereas the black cab
minimum is £2.40.


How far would you get for £2.40 in a black cab, or even £4?


Probably Kings Cross to St Pancras.

Peter Smyth


Michael R N Dolbear April 5th 13 12:44 AM

taxi fares in London
 
Peter Smyth wrote

How far would you get for £2.40 in a black cab, or even £4?


Probably Kings Cross to St Pancras.


Long long ago I took a cab from Moorgate/ Ropemaker St to Liverpool St
Station and paid something like the then minimum.

My suitcase was heavy and perhaps the handle had broken - I do recall
the taxi-driver was not at all gruntled..



--
Mike D



Mizter T April 6th 13 02:58 PM

taxi fares in London
 

On 02/04/2013 07:46, Basil Jet wrote:

On 2013\04\01 16:28, Recliner wrote:
[...]
I think my local (suburban) minicabs do have to pay the cc, even though
they're TfL licensed, so I wonder which minicabs are exempt? Perhaps
they have to be based in central London?


All London licensed minicabs are exempt from the CC. Anyone can get any
vehicle, even a pickup truck, registered as a minicab and so become
exempt from CC without being involved in any minicab company. If some
company is telling the passenger that they have to pay it so that they
can pass that charge on to the passenger, you should name and shame the
company, because either they are passing on a non-existent charge
(immoral and possibly illegal) or they are using vehicles which are not
licensed as minicabs (illegal).


Which is pretty much what I was going to say. I remember when the CC was
first introduced (blimey, over 10 years ago now! - 17 Feb 2003) there
was specific advice regarding watching out for any (London) minicabs
that might try to add a 'CC surcharge', given that they were exempt from
the charge from day one.

TraVeller13 April 15th 13 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eastender[_4_] (Post 136651)
On 2013-03-31 16:44:17 +0000, John Ray said:

How are nowadays the taxi fares? Still the same? Thank you


The fare tables can be found he
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/...axis/1140.aspx


The fares guide is rather optimistically low - in recent trips I've
paid about £8 more than than the 'max' £21 4 mile/30 min trip to and
from the eastern edge of N1 to W1 (Green Park area). £30 when you add
in tips.

E.

Hi,

I want to travel to London but not spend to much money on cabs and bad service. Is there any alternative?

P.s. I hate the tube or busses. makes me fell very uncomfortable.

Roland Perry April 15th 13 03:54 PM

taxi fares in London
 
In message , at 10:33:30 on Mon,
15 Apr 2013, TraVeller13
remarked:
I want to travel to London but not spend to much money on cabs and bad
service. Is there any alternative?

P.s. I hate the tube or busses. makes me fell very uncomfortable.


Walking seems all that remains. Unless you are very lucky and find your
self needing [only] to travel on Thameslink or River Buses.
--
Roland Perry


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