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wrote in message ... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ditioning.html what's all the bolliox about no connecting door, like Siemens have just invented this. Other countries have had this for ages tim |
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On 06/10/2013 12:34, tim...... wrote:
wrote in message ... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ditioning.html what's all the bolliox about no connecting door, like Siemens have just invented this. Other countries have had this for ages How many of those are "in use on the London Underground"? London's tube (sic) lines haven't had wide walk-through gangways, not even on the new Victoria line trains. I'm disappointed that the DM hasn't picked up that this would make it easier for foreign beggars to move through the train... -- Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK |
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On 06/10/2013 13:36, Arthur Figgis wrote:
On 06/10/2013 12:34, tim...... wrote: wrote in message ... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ditioning.html what's all the bolliox about no connecting door, like Siemens have just invented this. Other countries have had this for ages How many of those are "in use on the London Underground"? London's tube (sic) lines haven't had wide walk-through gangways, not even on the new Victoria line trains. Didn't plans for the 09ts stipulate walk-through? If so, then what happened? |
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On 06/10/2013 13:36, Arthur Figgis wrote: On 06/10/2013 12:34, tim...... wrote: wrote in message ... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ditioning.html what's all the bolliox about no connecting door, like Siemens have just invented this. Other countries have had this for ages How many of those are "in use on the London Underground"? London's tube (sic) lines haven't had wide walk-through gangways, not even on the new Victoria line trains. Didn't plans for the 09ts stipulate walk-through? If so, then what happened? Metronet happened. They went for a low risk conventional design, as there was no financial incentive to complete the research project that LU had previously started. The new articulated trains for the PIcc are essentially what the 09s for the Victoria line should have been. |
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wrote in message ... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ditioning.html what's all the bolliox about no connecting door, like Siemens have just invented this. Other countries have had this for ages Yes, but they've never been available on our small diameter Tube trains. You need articulated trains to make it possible with narrow body shells. Of course, it's much easier with full-size trains, even without articulation, which is why the S stock and 378s have them. |
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"Recliner" wrote in message ... "tim......" wrote: wrote in message ... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ditioning.html what's all the bolliox about no connecting door, like Siemens have just invented this. Other countries have had this for ages Yes, but they've never been available on our small diameter Tube trains. I don't see why "our" is significant. If you are trying to say it isn't available on small diameter Tube trains, then you are wrong Copenhagen has them and that is most definitely not a large profile tunnel So what's new here, other than it being new to the UK? You need articulated trains to make it possible with narrow body shells. But that's not new either. All we have here is current technology being brought to the UK 10 years (plus) after other countries have got it what's to shout about (from a technology pov)? tim |
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"tim......" wrote:
"Recliner" wrote in message ... "tim......" wrote: wrote in message ... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ditioning.html what's all the bolliox about no connecting door, like Siemens have just invented this. Other countries have had this for ages Yes, but they've never been available on our small diameter Tube trains. I don't see why "our" is significant. It's based on a press release about possible future London Tube trains. It's not a survey on world Metro systems. If you are trying to say it isn't available on small diameter Tube trains, then you are wrong Copenhagen has them and that is most definitely not a large profile tunnel Are they articulated? So what's new here, other than it being new to the UK? You need articulated trains to make it possible with narrow body shells .. But that's not new either. All we have here is current technology being brought to the UK 10 years (plus) after other countries have got it what's to shout about (from a technology pov)? This is based on a press release to tell Londoners about their possible future trains. It's not an engineering research journal. |
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On 06/10/2013 14:06, tim...... wrote:
"Recliner" wrote in message ... "tim......" wrote: wrote in message ... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ditioning.html what's all the bolliox about no connecting door, like Siemens have just invented this. Other countries have had this for ages Yes, but they've never been available on our small diameter Tube trains. I don't see why "our" is significant. People wanting to get around London generally won't care about elsewhere. Maybe TfL could try this approach? "We've shut down the Piccadilly line. People trying to get to Heathrow shouldn't be upset, after all there is a perfectly good metro in Copenhagen". If you are trying to say it isn't available on small diameter Tube trains, then you are wrong Copenhagen has them and that is most definitely not a large profile tunnel It's not London tube profile either, from what I remember. More like DLR. So what's new here, other than it being new to the UK? On that basis the newspapers may as well not report anything - what is new apart from the new stuff? (in the specific case of the Daily Mail, them choosing not to report anything ever again might not be a bad thing). It is a proposal for a brand new model of train, meeting requirements which are unique to London in a way which has not been done before. You need articulated trains to make it possible with narrow body shells. But that's not new either. All we have here is current technology being brought to the UK 10 years (plus) after other countries have got it what's to shout about (from a technology pov)? Nowt. Railways were pretty much sorted by about 1830, so nothing to see, move along now. -- Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK |
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On 06/10/2013 15:08, Arthur Figgis wrote:
On 06/10/2013 14:06, tim...... wrote: "Recliner" wrote in message ... "tim......" wrote: wrote in message ... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ditioning.html what's all the bolliox about no connecting door, like Siemens have just invented this. Other countries have had this for ages Yes, but they've never been available on our small diameter Tube trains. I don't see why "our" is significant. People wanting to get around London generally won't care about elsewhere. Maybe TfL could try this approach? "We've shut down the Piccadilly line. People trying to get to Heathrow shouldn't be upset, after all there is a perfectly good metro in Copenhagen". It'd be cool if they eventually extended the Copenhagen Metro to Malmö. |
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wrote in message ... On 06/10/2013 15:08, Arthur Figgis wrote: On 06/10/2013 14:06, tim...... wrote: "Recliner" wrote in message ... "tim......" wrote: wrote in message ... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ditioning.html what's all the bolliox about no connecting door, like Siemens have just invented this. Other countries have had this for ages Yes, but they've never been available on our small diameter Tube trains. I don't see why "our" is significant. People wanting to get around London generally won't care about elsewhere. Maybe TfL could try this approach? "We've shut down the Piccadilly line. People trying to get to Heathrow shouldn't be upset, after all there is a perfectly good metro in Copenhagen". It'd be cool if they eventually extended the Copenhagen Metro to Malmö. that is effectively what they do have :-( tim |
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