On Thursday, 7 November 2013 13:50:38 UTC, Neil Williams wrote:

1. No unresolved journeys. The way I would work this is the same way as many other systems do it, such as Singapore - touching in charges the maximum Oyster single fare to the card that could apply from that station (subject to cap if appropriate for London), and touching out refunds back the difference back to the journey you actually made. If you don't touch out, you don't get it back, tough. That is powerful motivation, and far, far less complicated.

Failure to touch in and touching out would do the same thing. Maximum fare that could apply to that station would be charged. Or in the case of National Rail, an automatic Penalty Fare.

Neil

On Thursday, 7 November 2013 13:52:31 UTC, Neil Williams wrote:

Failure to touch in and touching out would do the same thing. Maximum fare that could apply to that station would be charged. Or in the case of National Rail, an automatic Penalty Fare.

One more... maximum journey lengths set very high (perhaps 6 hours or something, or closed by next touch-in), but if exceeded would result in two separate maximum fares, again non-appealable.

Neil

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(Neil Williams) wrote:

On Thursday, 7 November 2013 13:52:31 UTC, Neil Williams wrote:

Failure to touch in and touching out would do the same thing.
Maximum fare that could apply to that station would be charged. Or
in the case of National Rail, an automatic Penalty Fare.

One more... maximum journey lengths set very high (perhaps 6 hours or
something, or closed by next touch-in), but if exceeded would result
in two separate maximum fares, again non-appealable.

And when you get the sort of common failures like my wife experienced where
she passed through gates but the exits were not recorded on her Oyster. She
knew nothing about anything being wrong (enough credit for a maximum fare at
the outset) and then didn't use the card for a year by which time TfL
refused to do anything about it.

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Colin Rosenstiel