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Last two weeks of the C stock
or so I was told by the driver at Wimbledon yesterday afternoon. I've got a
few pictures of the last of the old order I'll try and put on the web if I can work out where. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
Last two weeks of the C stock
On Thu, 29 May 2014 03:40:11 -0500, wrote:
or so I was told by the driver at Wimbledon yesterday afternoon. I've got a few pictures of the last of the old order I'll try and put on the web if I can work out where. There is a farewell tour planned for June 29th http://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/whats-on/e...hicles-outings Tickets priced £40 will be on sale from 2 June Departing from Moorgate, this official last C stock tour covers its former territory, including the Hammersmith & City, Circle and District Lines and finishes at Hammersmith. Passengers will have the opportunity to visit the London Transport Museum pop-up shop at Barking Station during the lunch stop over. |
Last two weeks of the C stock
Paul Corfield wrote on 29 May 2014 10:35:03 ...
On Thu, 29 May 2014 03:40:11 -0500, wrote: or so I was told by the driver at Wimbledon yesterday afternoon. I've got a few pictures of the last of the old order I'll try and put on the web if I can work out where. I understand the last trains run next week as 4 units go for scrapping then. Last day looks like Monday 3 June 2014. Running number 074 is apparently scheduled for C stock until 1339 (lunchtime). Thanks for the good news. Personally I shall be glad to see the last of this awful C-for-cattle-truck class. -- Richard J. (to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address) |
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On Thu, 29 May 2014 12:24:00 +0100, "Richard J."
wrote: Thanks for the good news. Personally I shall be glad to see the last of this awful C-for-cattle-truck class. For the passenger, the S stock is so good in comparison that I don't think the C stock will really be missed. Neil -- Neil Williams. Use neil before the at to reply. |
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Neil Williams wrote:
On Thu, 29 May 2014 12:24:00 +0100, "Richard J." wrote: Thanks for the good news. Personally I shall be glad to see the last of this awful C-for-cattle-truck class. For the passenger, the S stock is so good in comparison that I don't think the C stock will really be missed. Yes, and the C stock has been allowed to get quite shabby, so that won't help. Unlike with the A stock, with its deeply cushioned transverse seats and luggage racks, there's really no downsides for pax with the S replacing the C stock. The new trains are air-conditioned, longer and have through gangways. About the only snag is for people like us who now have to read the destination signs to know if it's a Wimbleware or City train (etc), rather than simply recognising A, C or D stock and knowing which line it's on. |
Last two weeks of the C stock
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In article , (Paul Corfield) wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2014 03:40:11 -0500, wrote: or so I was told by the driver at Wimbledon yesterday afternoon. I've got a few pictures of the last of the old order I'll try and put on the web if I can work out where. I understand the last trains run next week as 4 units go for scrapping then. Last day looks like Monday 3 June 2014. Running number 074 is apparently scheduled for C stock until 1339 (lunchtime). Even sooner than I was told then! Is that a Wimbleware working? I think that's the only route they've been on for the last few months. |
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On 2014\05\29 20:03, Steve Fitzgerald wrote:
Wimbleware indeed! A term only used by 'enthusiasts' And by Tight Fit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WScEJKNMdgI |
Last two weeks of the C stock
On 29/05/2014 10:35, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Thu, 29 May 2014 03:40:11 -0500, wrote: or so I was told by the driver at Wimbledon yesterday afternoon. I've got a few pictures of the last of the old order I'll try and put on the web if I can work out where. I understand the last trains run next week as 4 units go for scrapping then. Last day looks like Monday 3 June 2014. Running number 074 is apparently scheduled for C stock until 1339 (lunchtime). When's D-Day, then? |
Last two weeks of the C stock
On 29/05/2014 14:26, Steve Fitzgerald wrote:
In message , Richard J. writes or so I was told by the driver at Wimbledon yesterday afternoon. I've got a few pictures of the last of the old order I'll try and put on the web if I can work out where. I understand the last trains run next week as 4 units go for scrapping then. Last day looks like Monday 3 June 2014. Running number 074 is apparently scheduled for C stock until 1339 (lunchtime). Thanks for the good news. Personally I shall be glad to see the last of this awful C-for-cattle-truck class. I won't... I used to quite enjoy the challenge of driving them. How so? I would be interested to hear. |
Last two weeks of the C stock
On 29/05/2014 15:01, Recliner wrote:
Neil Williams wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2014 12:24:00 +0100, "Richard J." wrote: Thanks for the good news. Personally I shall be glad to see the last of this awful C-for-cattle-truck class. For the passenger, the S stock is so good in comparison that I don't think the C stock will really be missed. Yes, and the C stock has been allowed to get quite shabby, so that won't help. Unlike with the A stock, with its deeply cushioned transverse seats and luggage racks, there's really no downsides for pax with the S replacing the C stock. The new trains are air-conditioned, longer and have through gangways. About the only snag is for people like us who now have to read the destination signs to know if it's a Wimbleware or City train (etc), rather than simply recognising A, C or D stock and knowing which line it's on. Railcar number? The third digit in an S-7 railcar's number is always 3. |
Last two weeks of the C stock
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On 29/05/2014 15:01, Recliner wrote: Neil Williams wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2014 12:24:00 +0100, "Richard J." wrote: Thanks for the good news. Personally I shall be glad to see the last of this awful C-for-cattle-truck class. For the passenger, the S stock is so good in comparison that I don't think the C stock will really be missed. Yes, and the C stock has been allowed to get quite shabby, so that won't help. Unlike with the A stock, with its deeply cushioned transverse seats and luggage racks, there's really no downsides for pax with the S replacing the C stock. The new trains are air-conditioned, longer and have through gangways. About the only snag is for people like us who now have to read the destination signs to know if it's a Wimbleware or City train (etc), rather than simply recognising A, C or D stock and knowing which line it's on. Railcar number? The third digit in an S-7 railcar's number is always 3. It's less convenient than spotting A stock headlights from a distance, and former C and D stock routes will all be S7s anyway. |
Last two weeks of the C stock
On 29/05/2014 21:44, Recliner wrote:
" wrote: On 29/05/2014 15:01, Recliner wrote: Neil Williams wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2014 12:24:00 +0100, "Richard J." wrote: Thanks for the good news. Personally I shall be glad to see the last of this awful C-for-cattle-truck class. For the passenger, the S stock is so good in comparison that I don't think the C stock will really be missed. Yes, and the C stock has been allowed to get quite shabby, so that won't help. Unlike with the A stock, with its deeply cushioned transverse seats and luggage racks, there's really no downsides for pax with the S replacing the C stock. The new trains are air-conditioned, longer and have through gangways. About the only snag is for people like us who now have to read the destination signs to know if it's a Wimbleware or City train (etc), rather than simply recognising A, C or D stock and knowing which line it's on. Railcar number? The third digit in an S-7 railcar's number is always 3. It's less convenient than spotting A stock headlights from a distance, and former C and D stock routes will all be S7s anyway. Yes, there was something to be said about the headlights off of each train. |
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On 30/05/2014 00:24, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Thu, 29 May 2014 21:09:39 +0100, " wrote: On 29/05/2014 10:35, Paul Corfield wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2014 03:40:11 -0500, wrote: or so I was told by the driver at Wimbledon yesterday afternoon. I've got a few pictures of the last of the old order I'll try and put on the web if I can work out where. I understand the last trains run next week as 4 units go for scrapping then. Last day looks like Monday 3 June 2014. Running number 074 is apparently scheduled for C stock until 1339 (lunchtime). When's D-Day, then? Tuesday 3rd June not the Monday as I said before. Or did he mean "When is the last day of running for D stock on the District Line"? Last I heard it was 2016 so there's probably some flex in that timetable. |
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Last two weeks of the C stock
In article
, (Recliner) wrote: wrote: In article , (Paul Corfield) wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2014 03:40:11 -0500, wrote: or so I was told by the driver at Wimbledon yesterday afternoon. I've got a few pictures of the last of the old order I'll try and put on the web if I can work out where. I understand the last trains run next week as 4 units go for scrapping then. Last day looks like Monday 3 June 2014. Running number 074 is apparently scheduled for C stock until 1339 (lunchtime). 4 units is only a train and a bit, or do you mean (6-car) trains? Even sooner than I was told then! Is that a Wimbleware working? I think that's the only route they've been on for the last few months. I vaguely thought so but haven't been in London on the tube much recently so thought it best to check. It was my first visit to Putney since late 2012. I see the train I took both from Wimbledon to Wimbledon Park at 14:15 and from Wimbledon Park to East Putney was 072. It had done a complete trip via Edgware Road and Wimbledon while I was visiting my aunt for over an hour. According to WTT 145 it wasn't quite running to timetable as I should have left Wimbledon at 14:08 and it arrived at Wimbledon Park the second time at 15:31:40 (timestamp of photo taken of it arriving in the platform). -- Colin Rosenstiel |
Last two weeks of the C stock
In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2014 21:09:39 +0100, " wrote: On 29/05/2014 10:35, Paul Corfield wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2014 03:40:11 -0500, wrote: or so I was told by the driver at Wimbledon yesterday afternoon. I've got a few pictures of the last of the old order I'll try and put on the web if I can work out where. I understand the last trains run next week as 4 units go for scrapping then. Last day looks like Monday 3 June 2014. Running number 074 is apparently scheduled for C stock until 1339 (lunchtime). When's D-Day, then? Tuesday 3rd June not the Monday as I said before. I thought Hounslow was asking when the final D stock run will be. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
Last two weeks of the C stock
Paul Corfield wrote:
On Fri, 30 May 2014 06:45:33 -0500, wrote: In article , (Paul Corfield) wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2014 21:09:39 +0100, " wrote: On 29/05/2014 10:35, Paul Corfield wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2014 03:40:11 -0500, wrote: or so I was told by the driver at Wimbledon yesterday afternoon. I've got a few pictures of the last of the old order I'll try and put on the web if I can work out where. I understand the last trains run next week as 4 units go for scrapping then. Last day looks like Monday 3 June 2014. Running number 074 is apparently scheduled for C stock until 1339 (lunchtime). When's D-Day, then? Tuesday 3rd June not the Monday as I said before. I thought Hounslow was asking when the final D stock run will be. Well it's not at all clear to me what was being asked in the light of the comments about D stock. D stock hasn't even been mentioned in the context of stock withdrawals in the very near future. The simplest answer re C Stock is "already stated. For D Stock last day in service my answer is "haven't a clue". ;-) Presumably Bombardier will continue building S7s without a break, now that the C stock has all been replaced? If so, then the D stock will soon start to leave. Of course, the depots aren't ready yet, which may cause a delay. |
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On 30/05/2014 09:34, Someone Somewhere wrote:
On 30/05/2014 00:24, Paul Corfield wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2014 21:09:39 +0100, " wrote: On 29/05/2014 10:35, Paul Corfield wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2014 03:40:11 -0500, wrote: or so I was told by the driver at Wimbledon yesterday afternoon. I've got a few pictures of the last of the old order I'll try and put on the web if I can work out where. I understand the last trains run next week as 4 units go for scrapping then. Last day looks like Monday 3 June 2014. Running number 074 is apparently scheduled for C stock until 1339 (lunchtime). When's D-Day, then? Tuesday 3rd June not the Monday as I said before. Or did he mean "When is the last day of running for D stock on the District Line"? Last I heard it was 2016 so there's probably some flex in that timetable. Exactly. |
Last two weeks of the C stock
In message , at 10:10:25 on
Thu, 29 May 2014, David Walters remarked: There is a farewell tour planned for June 29th http://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/whats-on/e...hicles-outings Tickets priced £40 will be on sale from 2 June Departing from Moorgate, this official last C stock tour covers its former territory, including the Hammersmith & City, Circle and District Lines and finishes at Hammersmith. Passengers will have the opportunity to visit the London Transport Museum pop-up shop at Barking Station during the lunch stop over. My ticket is booked (by lunchtime the front and rear coaches were already fully booked; looking now, the 6-car train is about 65% booked). Anyone up for a utl meet somewhere en-route? The only problem now is that the trip starts at 09:55 and the first train from the Cambridge area doesn't seem to get me there before 11:15, although that's with the following comedy route according to NRES (is the Circle/Met closed to normal trains?) 08:58 Ely [ELY] /FCC train/ London Kings Cross [KGX] 10:09 10:24 London Kings Cross [KGX] /Walk/ London St Pancras 10:25 10:42 London St Pancras /train/ Stratford International 10:48 10:53 Stratford International /Walk & Tube & DLR/ Moorgate 11:15 -- Roland Perry |
Last two weeks of the C stock
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote: In message , at 10:10:25 on Thu, 29 May 2014, David Walters remarked: There is a farewell tour planned for June 29th http://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/whats-on/e...hicles-outings Tickets priced £40 will be on sale from 2 June Departing from Moorgate, this official last C stock tour covers its former territory, including the Hammersmith & City, Circle and District Lines and finishes at Hammersmith. Passengers will have the opportunity to visit the London Transport Museum pop-up shop at Barking Station during the lunch stop over. My ticket is booked (by lunchtime the front and rear coaches were already fully booked; looking now, the 6-car train is about 65% booked). Anyone up for a utl meet somewhere en-route? The only problem now is that the trip starts at 09:55 and the first train from the Cambridge area doesn't seem to get me there before 11:15, although that's with the following comedy route according to NRES (is the Circle/Met closed to normal trains?) 08:58 Ely [ELY] /FCC train/ London Kings Cross [KGX] 10:09 10:24 London Kings Cross [KGX] /Walk/ London St Pancras 10:25 10:42 London St Pancras /train/ Stratford International 10:48 10:53 Stratford International /Walk & Tube & DLR/ Moorgate 11:15 Can't you get there via Liverpool St? TfL think there are services from there to Moorgate at the time. The 08:32 from Cambridge to Liverpool St looks like it should get there in time. later Ah! No arrival from Ely before 09:15. That's a bit fatal. You'll have to drive to Cambridge then and park in Rustat Road or somewhere like that. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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Last two weeks of the C stock
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote: In message , at 14:55:07 on Mon, 2 Jun 2014, remarked: The only problem now is that the trip starts at 09:55 and the first train from the Cambridge area doesn't seem to get me there before 11:15, although that's with the following comedy route according to NRES (is the Circle/Met closed to normal trains?) 08:58 Ely [ELY] /FCC train/ London Kings Cross [KGX] 10:09 10:24 London Kings Cross [KGX] /Walk/ London St Pancras 10:25 10:42 London St Pancras /train/ Stratford International 10:48 10:53 Stratford International /Walk & Tube & DLR/ Moorgate 11:15 Can't you get there via Liverpool St? TfL think there are services from there to Moorgate at the time. The 08:32 from Cambridge to Liverpool St looks like it should get there in time. later Ah! No arrival from Ely before 09:15. That's a bit fatal. You'll have to drive to Cambridge then and park in Rustat Road or somewhere like that. The first LST train from Cambridge seems to be the 0732-0843; I'm not going to bet on the 0832 being on time and me getting to Moorgate in 12 minutes! Although maybe bailing out at Tottenham Hale would work, if everything is running OK. There's a connection off the 0751 to Stratford with connection arriving LST at 0931, including the Tottenham option. Trouble with that is poor connections to Moorgate from the Victoria Line. That gives an extra 12 minutes for the Liverpool St-Moorgate connection. TfL's journey planner says it only takes 6 minutes walking and 1 minute by (frequent) train. To KGX there's the 0728-0829, with the next useful train being the 0828-0928. I'll have to see how brave I'm feeling on the day, but a combination of Sunday plus quite probably some engineering works (RTT says most of the LGX trains that day are on a special timetable) means I'll probably be on the 0732. How long to get to Moorgate from KGX, though? You might as well get the 0751 and change at Tottenham Hale. If the connection Stansted Express is cancelled you've still got the 0832 to fall back onto. I suppose the 0732 is the safest option, though. The initial rush for tickets seems to have died down with just over 50 left now (75% sold). I've bought one. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
Last two weeks of the C stock
In message , at 05:35:33
on Tue, 3 Jun 2014, remarked: The initial rush for tickets seems to have died down with just over 50 left now (75% sold). I've bought one. So we'll have at least a two-person utl meet. Which train from Cambridge might you be getting? [Of course I'm gutted to be missing that week's band in Ely, which seems to be Michael Kilpatrick of cam.misc's Harmony in Harlem]. -- Roland Perry |
Last two weeks of the C stock
On 30/05/2014 00:24, Paul Corfield wrote: [...] I understand the last trains run next week as 4 units go for scrapping then. Last day looks like Monday 3 June 2014. Running number 074 is apparently scheduled for C stock until 1339 (lunchtime). [...] Tuesday 3rd June not the Monday as I said before. So the last C stock ran in normal service earlier today then? In which case I missed giving them a final ride, but I expect I'll live! What I did miss out on is not going for a final ride on the A stock on the Chesham branch. |
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Last two weeks of the C stock
On 2014-06-03 19:12:06 +0000, Mizter T said:
On 30/05/2014 00:24, Paul Corfield wrote: [...] I understand the last trains run next week as 4 units go for scrapping then. Last day looks like Monday 3 June 2014. Running number 074 is apparently scheduled for C stock until 1339 (lunchtime). [...] Tuesday 3rd June not the Monday as I said before. So the last C stock ran in normal service earlier today then? In which case I missed giving them a final ride, but I expect I'll live! Same here, but it's a shame. But I can claim that I rode on them before they entered service as C69s provided a shuttle service from a very puddly Moorgate to a Neasden open day in - when? What I did miss out on is not going for a final ride on the A stock on the Chesham branch. |
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On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 02:11:10 +0100
Ken Wheatley wrote: On 2014-06-03 19:12:06 +0000, Mizter T said: On 30/05/2014 00:24, Paul Corfield wrote: [...] I understand the last trains run next week as 4 units go for scrapping then. Last day looks like Monday 3 June 2014. Running number 074 is apparently scheduled for C stock until 1339 (lunchtime). [...] Tuesday 3rd June not the Monday as I said before. So the last C stock ran in normal service earlier today then? In which case I missed giving them a final ride, but I expect I'll live! Same here, but it's a shame. But I can claim that I rode on them before Good riddence to them. Horrible trains made even worse by the idiots who converted them to longitudinal seating with some seats that were too small for anyone of normal size. -- Spud |
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Last two weeks of the C stock
On Sat, 07 Jun 2014 10:04:05 -0500
wrote: In article , d () wrote: On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 02:11:10 +0100 Ken Wheatley wrote: On 2014-06-03 19:12:06 +0000, Mizter T said: On 30/05/2014 00:24, Paul Corfield wrote: [...] I understand the last trains run next week as 4 units go for scrapping then. Last day looks like Monday 3 June 2014. Running number 074 is apparently scheduled for C stock until 1339 (lunchtime). [...] Tuesday 3rd June not the Monday as I said before. So the last C stock ran in normal service earlier today then? In which case I missed giving them a final ride, but I expect I'll live! Same here, but it's a shame. But I can claim that I rode on them before Good riddence to them. Horrible trains made even worse by the idiots who converted them to longitudinal seating with some seats that were too small for anyone of normal size. I think you already made your position clear. Not everyone agrees with you. Already? When did I last mention them? But I guess anyone under the age of 10 or anorexics would be happy in the seats. -- Spud |
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wrote in message ... Good riddence to them. Horrible trains made even worse by the idiots who converted them to longitudinal seating with some seats that were too small for anyone of normal size. -- Spud But with the great advantage that without side doors at the carriage ends, each carriage provided four seats, two facing at each end, where it was possible to drop off without fellow passengers needing to step over your feet, or generally "brush past". Or when wide awake the opportunity to gawp at the passengers in the adjoining carriage before they eventually copped on. michael adams .... |
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Last two weeks of the C stock
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote: In message , at 18:21:23 on Tue, 3 Jun 2014, remarked: ...Tour tickets... Roland and I have ours. The bits of dead tree arrived this morning. Need to be at Moorgate twenty minutes before the train departs, they say. The ticket has a carriage number (I'm in B), but not a seat number [the original booking did]. Summarised schedule is: 0932-0955 Board train at Moorgate 1042 Arr Wimbledon via High St Ken and Earls Court 1055 Depart Wimbledon 1203 Arr West Ham Siding via Earls Court and Moorgate 1206 Dep West Ham Siding 1216 Arr Barking 1322 Dep Barking 1354 pass Moorgate again 1420 pass High St Ken 1424 pass Gloucester Road 1455 pass Moorgate again! 1527 Arr Hammersmith. I had the same mailing this morning. I'm in coach C. Roland could also have mentioned the need to "bring a pack lunch and drinks" and bear in mind the limited comfort breaks so might like to use the loos at Liverpool St before going to Moorgate. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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Last two weeks of the C stock
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote: In message , at 08:35:00 on Wed, 18 Jun 2014, remarked: Slightly to my surprise the schedule appears to be entirely confined to the routes the C Stock ran on, H&C, Wimbledon-Edgware Road and Circle. Is that all the stock is cleared for now? A trip to Olympia and back would have been neat. It looks as if all those routes will be covered plus West Ham siding (why twice?). And why four passes over the northern Circle, and only one the southern? To even it up, the first leg should really have gone via Tower Hill clockwise to Wimbledon, even that was never an official end-to-end route (but neither is Wimbledon to Barking via Kings Cross). I agree about Olympia. I assume that might be possible if there weren't two trips to West Ham siding. The multiple passes are a result of running over the different routes which rather multiple at Edgware Road. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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In article , (Mizter T) wrote:
On 18/06/2014 14:17, wrote: [...] I had the same mailing this morning. I'm in coach C. Roland could also have mentioned the need to "bring a pack lunch and drinks" and bear in mind the limited comfort breaks so might like to use the loos at Liverpool St before going to Moorgate. If you're talking about comfort breaks then you may as well leave off the 'Street' after Liverpool for the maximum confusion factor, and while you're at it, write it as Moor Gate as well! (Hmm... there are Moors at the gate, this here Yurop place is a bit scary...) You've lost me there. Anyone here going on the tour other than Roland and me? -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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