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Old August 3rd 14, 09:45 AM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway
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In message , at 10:33:54 on Sun, 3 Aug 2014,
Mizter T remarked:
Can you use your Oyster card for Pay-as-You-Go from London Bridge to
Tundbridge Wells?

Thanks in advance.


No. The "London's rail and Tube services" map shows the extent of
Oyster-land with a black dotted/broken line:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/maps/track/national-rail


From which we can see that the number of places outside the classic
"Zones" is really rather small.
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Are current Oyster fares from central London to Harold Wood and
Brentwood identical (a "mid-Essex" zone) and if so what would Oyster
charge for a journey from Harold Wood to Brentwood?


Poor example as Harold Wood is within Greater London. The single fare finder gives results that put Brentwood "beyond" zone 9.

The problem is the allocation of special zones for NR destinations beyond zone 6. That eats up the additional zones that Oyster can cope with. If TfL pricing could be applied to the extensions then there would be three existing zones that could be tacked on to each line out of London.

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Some while ago, I had cause to try to understand Oyster fares on NR.

After some searching https://www.tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-pay.../national-rail gave the map and faretables.

Not too easy to follow for a layman.

DRH



On Sunday, 3 August 2014 20:35:01 UTC+1, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at

11:32:32 on Sun, 3 Aug 2014, remarked:

Are current Oyster fares from central London to Harold Wood and


Brentwood identical (a "mid-Essex" zone) and if so what would Oyster


charge for a journey from Harold Wood to Brentwood?




Poor example as Harold Wood is within Greater London.




I meant Brentwood and Shenfield, sorry.



The single fare finder gives results that put Brentwood "beyond" zone


9.




And Shenfield "way beyond"?



The problem is the allocation of special zones for NR destinations


beyond zone 6. That eats up the additional zones that Oyster can cope


with.




How many zones can it cope with? Have you heard 15 too?



If TfL pricing could be applied to the extensions then there would be


three existing zones that could be tacked on to each line out of London.




That makes sense with the 15 minus 12 I mentioned earlier. But how does

Oyster handle fares from one of those "three on line A out of London"

and one of those "three on line B out of London"? Or doesn't it matter

if for example every "first station on one of the lines" is the same

price, and every "second station" and every "third station". In effect

three extra zones circling the Capital.

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In article ,
(DRH) wrote:

Some while ago, I had cause to try to understand Oyster fares on NR.

After some searching
https://www.tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-pay.../national-rail gave
the map and faretables.

Not too easy to follow for a layman.


The gory details seem to be at
https://www.tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cm...ailcard-fares-
jan-2014.pdf (watch the line wrap).

Please don't top-post.

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On Monday, August 4, 2014 12:07:50 PM UTC+1, wrote:
In article ,

(DRH) wrote:



Some while ago, I had cause to try to understand Oyster fares on NR.




After some searching


https://www.tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-pay.../national-rail gave

the map and faretables.




Not too easy to follow for a layman.




The gory details seem to be at

https://www.tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cm...ailcard-fares-

jan-2014.pdf (watch the line wrap).



Please don't top-post.



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But https://www.tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-pay.../national-rail gives links to map and tariffs, plus useful intro, which may help the original poster and address subsequent comments on zones etc.

DRH
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