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"Clive D. W. Feather" wrote:
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There's only one current line with a made-up composite name like that: the
Bakerloo. And only one other one has a name based on its end points at all:
the Hammersmith and City.


Except only one end point is mentioned (the other is now Barking, though
I accept it was originally Farringdon).

What about both the Piccadilly and the Central? Those names derive from
the original intended end-points (Great Northern and Piccadilly Railway
and Central London Railway). Someone has already mentioned the Waterloo and City.


The Piccadilly, like the Victoria, is named after a prominent point in the
middle of the line, but neither end point (the predecessor GN&PR proposal
wasn't really relevant by the time the line was built and named). The
Central name relates to the fact that it was the first line to pass through
central London; the subsurface lines went round the centre, and the
original CSLR didn't quite get to the centre. That means the Central line
still has a relevant name, despite the multiple extensions at both ends.

So, if you're going to have geographic names, it's probably better to pick
a prominent central point, rather than end points, as the latter are quite
likely to change, as has happened several times with the Bakerloo, and is
likely to happen yet again.

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Recliner wrote:

So, if you're going to have geographic names, it's probably better to pick
a prominent central point, rather than end points, as the latter are quite
likely to change, as has happened several times with the Bakerloo, and is
likely to happen yet again.


IIRC Waterloo has never been the Bakerloo's southern terminus - it was
always intended as Elephant & Castle though for the first few months Lambeth
North was a temporary interchange.

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"Tim Roll-Pickering" wrote:
Recliner wrote:

So, if you're going to have geographic names, it's probably better to pick
a prominent central point, rather than end points, as the latter are quite
likely to change, as has happened several times with the Bakerloo, and is
likely to happen yet again.


IIRC Waterloo has never been the Bakerloo's southern terminus - it was
always intended as Elephant & Castle though for the first few months Lambeth
North was a temporary interchange.


OK, didn't know that. But the northern terminus has certainly changed
several times. Also, wasn't that an 'unofficial' name initially, that was
later adopted as the official name?
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IIRC Waterloo has never been the Bakerloo's southern terminus - it was
always intended as Elephant & Castle though for the first few months Lambeth
North was a temporary interchange.


Correct: just under 5 months.

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remarked:
So, if you're going to have geographic names, it's probably better to pick
a prominent central point, rather than end points, as the latter are quite
likely to change, as has happened several times with the Bakerloo, and is
likely to happen yet again.


IIRC Waterloo has never been the Bakerloo's southern terminus - it was
always intended as Elephant & Castle though for the first few months Lambeth
North was a temporary interchange.


OK, didn't know that. But the northern terminus has certainly changed
several times. Also, wasn't that an 'unofficial' name initially, that was
later adopted as the official name?


More info he http://www.davros.org/rail/culg/bakerloo.html
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message -septem
ber.org, at 16:59:45 on Sun, 25 Jan 2015, Recliner remarked:
So, if you're going to have geographic names, it's probably better to pick
a prominent central point, rather than end points, as the latter are quite
likely to change, as has happened several times with the Bakerloo, and is
likely to happen yet again.

IIRC Waterloo has never been the Bakerloo's southern terminus - it was
always intended as Elephant & Castle though for the first few months Lambeth
North was a temporary interchange.


OK, didn't know that. But the northern terminus has certainly changed
several times. Also, wasn't that an 'unofficial' name initially, that was
later adopted as the official name?


More info he http://www.davros.org/rail/culg/bakerloo.html


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On 25/01/2015 20:00, Clive D. W. Feather wrote:

In message , Tim Roll-Pickering
wrote:
IIRC Waterloo has never been the Bakerloo's southern terminus - it was
always intended as Elephant & Castle though for the first few months
Lambeth North was a temporary interchange.


Correct: just under 5 months.


Obviously there was the 30's plan for the southern extension to
Camberwell, thwarted by the war - but were there ever any earlier plans
or intentions to take the line further south?
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On 2015\01\21 09:05, Basil Jet wrote:

Just wondering... did the person who decided that the Fleet
Line should be renamed the Jubilee Line get their knighthood?


How odd that the River Fleet should resume its original course just as
we were indirectly talking about it.
https://vine.co/v/OIP3dEhPpPx
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Basil Jet wrote:
On 2015\01\21 09:05, Basil Jet wrote:

Just wondering... did the person who decided that the Fleet
Line should be renamed the Jubilee Line get their knighthood?


How odd that the River Fleet should resume its original course just as we
were indirectly talking about it.
https://vine.co/v/OIP3dEhPpPx


Though fed by Thames Water, not the Fleet itself.


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