On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 09:46:48 +0000
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 06/02/2015 09:23, The Real Doctor wrote:
On 05/02/15 22:37, wrote:
This should be interesting.


http://www.theguardian.com/cities/20...d-tube-tunnels
london-underline


Only the Guardian ...

"Stretches of vacant tunnel remain at Goodge Street and Stockwell, for
example, remnants of a bizarre second world war plan to connect deep
bomb shelters into an express connection running parallel with the
Northern Line."


Nothing like getting the facts totally mangled.

Well it is The Guardian. If you want facts rather than guesswork and uneducated
opinion then its the wrong paper.

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Spud

wrote in message ...
On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 09:46:48 +0000
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 06/02/2015 09:23, The Real Doctor wrote:
On 05/02/15 22:37, wrote:
This should be interesting.


http://www.theguardian.com/cities/20...d-tube-tunnels
london-underline


Only the Guardian ...

"Stretches of vacant tunnel remain at Goodge Street and Stockwell, for
example, remnants of a bizarre second world war plan to connect deep
bomb shelters into an express connection running parallel with the
Northern Line."


Nothing like getting the facts totally mangled.

Well it is The Guardian. If you want facts rather than guesswork and uneducated
opinion then its the wrong paper.

Looks like Subterranea Britannica

"The Bombings of 1940 forced a reappraisal of deep-shelter policy and at
the end of October the Government decided to construct a system of deep
shelters linked to existing tube stations. London Transport was consulted
about the sites and required to build the tunnels at the public expense
with the understanding that they were to have the option of taking them
over for railway use after the war. With the latter point in mind,
positions were chosen on routes of possible north-south and east-west
express tube railways"

http://www.subbrit.org.uk/rsg/featur...ers/index.html

and Wiki must be talking out of their arses as well then

"London deep-level shelters

Background[edit]

Each shelter consists of a pair of parallel tunnels 16 feet 6 inches (5.03 m)
in diameter and 1,200 feet (370 m) long. Each tunnel is subdivided into two
decks, and each shelter was designed to hold up to 8,000 people. It was planned
that after the war the shelters would be used as part of new express tube
lines paralleling parts of the existing Northern and Central lines. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_deep-level_shelters


Maybe its just as well that there are experts like you around with
the facts at your fingertips, to put everybody right


michael adams

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Spud

On Fri, 6 Feb 2015 14:23:32 -0000
"michael adams" wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 09:46:48 +0000
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 06/02/2015 09:23, The Real Doctor wrote:
On 05/02/15 22:37, wrote:
This should be interesting.


http://www.theguardian.com/cities/20...ned-tube-tunne
s
london-underline


Only the Guardian ...

"Stretches of vacant tunnel remain at Goodge Street and Stockwell, for
example, remnants of a bizarre second world war plan to connect deep
bomb shelters into an express connection running parallel with the
Northern Line."


Nothing like getting the facts totally mangled.

Well it is The Guardian. If you want facts rather than guesswork and
uneducated
opinion then its the wrong paper.

Looks like Subterranea Britannica

and Wiki must be talking out of their arses as well then

Or got the wrong end of the stick.

http://underground-history.co.uk/shelters.php

"As congestion on the Northern Line increased in the '30s, a plan was developed
to build a second pair of tunnels in parallel with the Charing Cross branch of
the Northern Line that would act as an express route through London"

Maybe its just as well that there are experts like you around with
the facts at your fingertips, to put everybody right

It would seem someone who can use google a bit better than you would be a start.

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Spud

wrote in message ...
On Fri, 6 Feb 2015 14:23:32 -0000
"michael adams" wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 09:46:48 +0000
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 06/02/2015 09:23, The Real Doctor wrote:
On 05/02/15 22:37, wrote:
This should be interesting.


http://www.theguardian.com/cities/20...ned-tube-tunne
s
london-underline


Only the Guardian ...

"Stretches of vacant tunnel remain at Goodge Street and Stockwell, for
example, remnants of a bizarre second world war plan to connect deep
bomb shelters into an express connection running parallel with the
Northern Line."


Nothing like getting the facts totally mangled.

Well it is The Guardian. If you want facts rather than guesswork and
uneducated
opinion then its the wrong paper.

Looks like Subterranea Britannica

and Wiki must be talking out of their arses as well then

Or got the wrong end of the stick.

So which word or words in the 12 word sentence from your own link

" These plans were shelved at the outset of the Second World War,"

are you having the biggest difficulty with ?


http://underground-history.co.uk/shelters.php

"As congestion on the Northern Line increased in the '30s, a plan was developed
to build a second pair of tunnels in parallel with the Charing Cross branch of
the Northern Line that would act as an express route through London"

Maybe its just as well that there are experts like you around with
the facts at your fingertips, to put everybody right

It would seem someone who can use google a bit better than you would be a start.

Reading the material you actually link to might help ease your obvious
confusion.

" It was hoped that when their wartime use had come to an end, tunneling
would re-start to allow the already constructed tunnel sections to be
interconnected, providing the express Northern Line route. For this reason,
most shelters were constructed with ease of access to the existing
Northern Line in mind.

So there were plans before the war.

These were shelved.

" These plans were shelved at the outset of the Second World War,"

Then with the start of the war, as the Guardian and SB says, it was decided
to build deep shelters.

At the time, as the Guardian and SB say, the possibility was left open
that these could form part of an express line running parallel
to the existing Northern Line. Similar to that proposed pre-war
but shelved. Hence their siting.

HTH


michael adams

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Spud

On Fri, 6 Feb 2015 19:45:21 -0000
"michael adams" wrote:
So which word or words in the 12 word sentence from your own link

" These plans were shelved at the outset of the Second World War,"

are you having the biggest difficulty with ?

Eh?

So there were plans before the war.

Err, yeess.

slowly
Which means that they weren't first envisaged as shelters and then to be
converted into a tube tunnel but the other way around. Which is my point.
/slowly

Perhaps you should learn to follow a thread?

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Spud

wrote in message ...
On Fri, 6 Feb 2015 19:45:21 -0000
"michael adams" wrote:
So which word or words in the 12 word sentence from your own link

" These plans were shelved at the outset of the Second World War,"

are you having the biggest difficulty with ?

Eh?

So there were plans before the war.

Err, yeess.

But then what happened ? Can you remember ? Or do you need a clue ?

Hint:
" These plans were shelved at the outset of the Second World War,"

http://underground-history.co.uk/shelters.php





slowly
Which means that they weren't first envisaged as shelters and then to be
converted into a tube tunnel but the other way around.

No. The way they were first envisaged was shelved.

" These plans were shelved at the outset of the Second World War,"

Otherwise there would have been nothing to shelve, would there ?

And then you'd have been correct !

But they were shelved. And so you're wrong.

(See above)


Which is my point.

/slowly

Which is obviouly wrong as those plans were shelved.


Perhaps you should learn to follow a thread?


All I need do is follow your own links -

" These plans were shelved at the outset of the Second World War,"



michael adams

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On Mon, 9 Feb 2015 12:41:56 -0000
"michael adams" wrote:
" These plans were shelved at the outset of the Second World War,"

And what? The plans existed which the shelters were pretty much built to. End.

Now go and troll elsewhere.

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Spud

On 2015\02\06 09:57, d wrote:

Well it is The Guardian. If you want facts rather than guesswork and uneducated
opinion then its the wrong paper.

The Guardian, uneducated? Miseducated maybe.

On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 16:35:12 +0000
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2015\02\06 09:57, d wrote:

Well it is The Guardian. If you want facts rather than guesswork and
uneducated
opinion then its the wrong paper.

The Guardian, uneducated? Miseducated maybe.

Well quite possibly. Most of them seem to be idiot arts and politics
graduates which in my mind is pushing the definition of education anyway.
Upshot is they think they're a lot smarter than they actually are.

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Spud

On 09.02.15 9:41, d wrote:
On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 16:35:12 +0000
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2015\02\06 09:57, d wrote:

Well it is The Guardian. If you want facts rather than guesswork and
uneducated
opinion then its the wrong paper.

The Guardian, uneducated? Miseducated maybe.

Well quite possibly. Most of them seem to be idiot arts and politics
graduates which in my mind is pushing the definition of education anyway.
Upshot is they think they're a lot smarter than they actually are.

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Spud

Morally superior and smug, in my opinion.

It wouldn't surprise me if they have put off others, who are also quite
liberal.