"D A Stocks" wrote:
"Roland Perry" wrote in message ...
In message , at 19:55:19
on Sat, 7 Feb 2015, remarked:
Aldwych is near enough to Covent Garden to be redundant.

The nearest station to Aldwych is Temple.

But Temple doesn't substitute for Aldwych as far as passengers using the
Piccadilly Line are concerned.


However, there will be a fair number of passengers for whom using Temple
and avoiding the central section of the Picadilly Line altogether is
definitely an option; e.g. Thameslink commuters can change at Blackfriars
rather than St Pancras and from 2018 their Great Northern brethren will
be able to join them. Similarly from West London it's an easy change onto
the District line and probably just as fast.

Yes, both Temple and Covent Garden have catchment areas that overlap
Aldwych, which makes the latter of limited benefit. When you also consider
the sparse rural-branch type shuttle service that it had, it would nearly
always be faster to use one of those very frequently served stations, even
if the walking time was marginally longer.

On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 17:38:38 -0800, Nobody wrote:

On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 22:37:19 +0000, "
wrote:

This should be interesting.

http://www.theguardian.com/cities/20...ndon-underline

I know that Seattle converted at least one tunnel, which was originally
to be for a light rail line, into a dedicated bus lane.


Well no, it was sort of the reverse of that: it was built originally
as a bus tunnel, but with tracks installed for future light-rail
usage. But when the 'lectric trains came into view, things weren't
going to work so it had to be modified

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downtown_Seattle_Transit_Tunnel

OT, but more sleepless nights in Seattle:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/seattles-costly-plan-to-replace-viaduct-becomes-an-infrastructure-nightmare/article22851505/

In message , at 23:15:42 on Sun, 8 Feb
2015, D A Stocks remarked:
"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at
19:55:19 on Sat, 7 Feb 2015, remarked:
Aldwych is near enough to Covent Garden to be redundant.

The nearest station to Aldwych is Temple.

But Temple doesn't substitute for Aldwych as far as passengers using
the Piccadilly Line are concerned.

However, there will be a fair number of passengers for whom using
Temple and avoiding the central section of the Picadilly Line
altogether is definitely an option; e.g. Thameslink commuters can
change at Blackfriars rather than St Pancras and from 2018 their Great
Northern brethren will be able to join them.

Quicker to take the Piccadilly to Holborn and walk.

Similarly from West London it's an easy change onto the District line
and probably just as fast.

They wouldn't have doubled-back at Holborn anyway. Covent Garden and
walk.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 23:15:42 on Sun, 8 Feb
2015, D A Stocks remarked:
"Roland Perry" wrote in message ...
In message , at
19:55:19 on Sat, 7 Feb 2015, remarked:
Aldwych is near enough to Covent Garden to be redundant.

The nearest station to Aldwych is Temple.

But Temple doesn't substitute for Aldwych as far as passengers using
the Piccadilly Line are concerned.

However, there will be a fair number of passengers for whom using
Temple and avoiding the central section of the Picadilly Line
altogether is definitely an option; e.g. Thameslink commuters can
change at Blackfriars rather than St Pancras and from 2018 their
Great Northern brethren will be able to join them.

Quicker to take the Piccadilly to Holborn and walk.

Similarly from West London it's an easy change onto the District line
and probably just as fast.

They wouldn't have doubled-back at Holborn anyway. Covent Garden and walk.

Actually, if I'm going to Somerset House, I'm more likely to use Temple
than Covent Garden. That's partly to avoid the hordes of tourists in Covent
Garden, and partly because it's a simpler route. I'm not sure which is
technically shorter, but there's not much in it. Even if Aldwych was still
open, walking from Temple or Covent Garden would be much quicker because of
the sparse shuttle service.

On Fri, 6 Feb 2015 19:45:21 -0000
"michael adams" wrote:
So which word or words in the 12 word sentence from your own link

" These plans were shelved at the outset of the Second World War,"

are you having the biggest difficulty with ?

Eh?

So there were plans before the war.

Err, yeess.

slowly
Which means that they weren't first envisaged as shelters and then to be
converted into a tube tunnel but the other way around. Which is my point.
/slowly

Perhaps you should learn to follow a thread?

--
Spud

On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 16:35:12 +0000
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2015\02\06 09:57, d wrote:

Well it is The Guardian. If you want facts rather than guesswork and
uneducated
opinion then its the wrong paper.

The Guardian, uneducated? Miseducated maybe.

Well quite possibly. Most of them seem to be idiot arts and politics
graduates which in my mind is pushing the definition of education anyway.
Upshot is they think they're a lot smarter than they actually are.

--
Spud

wrote in message ...
On Fri, 6 Feb 2015 19:45:21 -0000
"michael adams" wrote:
So which word or words in the 12 word sentence from your own link

" These plans were shelved at the outset of the Second World War,"

are you having the biggest difficulty with ?

Eh?

So there were plans before the war.

Err, yeess.

But then what happened ? Can you remember ? Or do you need a clue ?

Hint:
" These plans were shelved at the outset of the Second World War,"

http://underground-history.co.uk/shelters.php





slowly
Which means that they weren't first envisaged as shelters and then to be
converted into a tube tunnel but the other way around.

No. The way they were first envisaged was shelved.

" These plans were shelved at the outset of the Second World War,"

Otherwise there would have been nothing to shelve, would there ?

And then you'd have been correct !

But they were shelved. And so you're wrong.

(See above)


Which is my point.

/slowly

Which is obviouly wrong as those plans were shelved.


Perhaps you should learn to follow a thread?


All I need do is follow your own links -

" These plans were shelved at the outset of the Second World War,"



michael adams

....

On 09.02.15 9:41, d wrote:
On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 16:35:12 +0000
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2015\02\06 09:57, d wrote:

Well it is The Guardian. If you want facts rather than guesswork and
uneducated
opinion then its the wrong paper.

The Guardian, uneducated? Miseducated maybe.

Well quite possibly. Most of them seem to be idiot arts and politics
graduates which in my mind is pushing the definition of education anyway.
Upshot is they think they're a lot smarter than they actually are.

--
Spud

Morally superior and smug, in my opinion.

It wouldn't surprise me if they have put off others, who are also quite
liberal.

In article , d
() wrote:

On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 16:35:12 +0000
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2015\02\06 09:57, d wrote:

Well it is The Guardian. If you want facts rather than guesswork and
uneducated opinion then its the wrong paper.

The Guardian, uneducated? Miseducated maybe.

Well quite possibly. Most of them seem to be idiot arts and politics
graduates which in my mind is pushing the definition of education
anyway.
Upshot is they think they're a lot smarter than they actually are.

Prejudice is such a terrible thing.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at 23:15:42 on Sun, 8
Feb 2015, D A Stocks remarked:
"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at
19:55:19 on Sat, 7 Feb 2015, remarked:
Aldwych is near enough to Covent Garden to be redundant.

The nearest station to Aldwych is Temple.

But Temple doesn't substitute for Aldwych as far as passengers using
the Piccadilly Line are concerned.

However, there will be a fair number of passengers for whom using
Temple and avoiding the central section of the Picadilly Line
altogether is definitely an option; e.g. Thameslink commuters can
change at Blackfriars rather than St Pancras and from 2018 their Great
Northern brethren will be able to join them.

Quicker to take the Piccadilly to Holborn and walk.

After the Thameslink Programme is completed?

Similarly from West London it's an easy change onto the District line
and probably just as fast.

They wouldn't have doubled-back at Holborn anyway. Covent Garden and
walk.

Depends where in West London they are coming from.

--
Colin Rosenstiel