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83 TS on the M25
North past the junction with the M40 this afternoon (sunday) I saw an
entire train of 1983 stock on 6 low loaders heading northbound. I was under the impression that this stock had all been sold or scrapped about a decade ago. Did they still have some hanging around Neasden? FWIW the train was utterly wrecked. Even the graffiti louts had obviously given up on it since the graffiti itself was covered in a nice layer of green mould. Most of the windows were smashed and some of the shoebeams had snapped presumably due to wood rot. -- Spud |
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North past the junction with the M40 this afternoon (sunday) I saw an entire train of 1983 stock on 6 low loaders heading northbound. I was under the impression that this stock had all been sold or scrapped about a decade ago. Did they still have some hanging around Neasden? FWIW the train was utterly wrecked. Even the graffiti louts had obviously given up on it since the graffiti itself was covered in a nice layer of green mould. Most of the windows were smashed and some of the shoebeams had snapped presumably due to wood rot. I wonder if they need the siding space it used to occupy? Could it have previously been stored in the South Harrow sidings? One wonders why they left it hanging around for so long. Perhaps they once planned to re-use some of the carriages for an engineering train, but never got round to it? |
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On 28/06/2015 20:27, Recliner wrote: wrote: North past the junction with the M40 this afternoon (sunday) I saw an entire train of 1983 stock on 6 low loaders heading northbound. I was under the impression that this stock had all been sold or scrapped about a decade ago. Did they still have some hanging around Neasden? FWIW the train was utterly wrecked. Even the graffiti louts had obviously given up on it since the graffiti itself was covered in a nice layer of green mould. Most of the windows were smashed and some of the shoebeams had snapped presumably due to wood rot. I wonder if they need the siding space it used to occupy? Could it have previously been stored in the South Harrow sidings? One wonders why they left it hanging around for so long. Perhaps they once planned to re-use some of the carriages for an engineering train, but never got round to it? I've some vague idea there was such a notion. The 83TS were hardly LU's finest hour. That said, they were designed in a different era, where the expectations of passenger numbers were rather more pessimistic. A mistake not to be repeated. (Though having written that, the Roastmaster comes to mind...) |
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On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 12:57:41 +0100
Mizter T wrote: On 28/06/2015 20:27, Recliner wrote: wrote: North past the junction with the M40 this afternoon (sunday) I saw an entire train of 1983 stock on 6 low loaders heading northbound. I was under the impression that this stock had all been sold or scrapped about a decade ago. Did they still have some hanging around Neasden? FWIW the train was utterly wrecked. Even the graffiti louts had obviously given up on it since the graffiti itself was covered in a nice layer of green mould. Most of the windows were smashed and some of the shoebeams had snapped presumably due to wood rot. I wonder if they need the siding space it used to occupy? Could it have previously been stored in the South Harrow sidings? One wonders why they left it hanging around for so long. Perhaps they once planned to re-use some of the carriages for an engineering train, but never got round to it? I've some vague idea there was such a notion. The 83TS were hardly LU's finest hour. That said, they were designed in Apart from the single leaf doors, were there major issues with them? -- Spud |
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In message , Mizter T
wrote: The 83TS were hardly LU's finest hour. That said, they were designed in a different era, where the expectations of passenger numbers were rather more pessimistic. A mistake not to be repeated. What was that wrong with them? Yes, they had single leaf doors, but at the time the traffic patterns on the Jubilee had almost everyone getting on at stations before Baker Street and off at stations after it, and most of the line was above ground, so the doors actually handled things well. They were totally unsuitable for JLE, of course. And there wasn't any other obvious place to put them (there had been talk of an Uxbridge to Acton Town or High Street Ken shuttle that would use them). -- Clive D.W. Feather | Home: Mobile: +44 7973 377646 | Web: http://www.davros.org Please reply to the Reply-To address, which is: |
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On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 09:25:30 +0100
"Clive D. W. Feather" wrote: They were totally unsuitable for JLE, of course. And there wasn't any other obvious place to put them (there had been talk of an Uxbridge to Acton Town or High Street Ken shuttle that would use them). Does seem rather a waste though to bin trains only 15 years old. As the D train shows, its quite possible to rebuild a tube train. They could have widened the doors and slung them on the bakerloo. -- Spud |
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