In message , Mizter T
wrote:
The 83TS were hardly LU's finest hour. That said, they were designed in
a different era, where the expectations of passenger numbers were
rather more pessimistic. A mistake not to be repeated.

What was that wrong with them?

Yes, they had single leaf doors, but at the time the traffic patterns on
the Jubilee had almost everyone getting on at stations before Baker
Street and off at stations after it, and most of the line was above
ground, so the doors actually handled things well.

They were totally unsuitable for JLE, of course. And there wasn't any
other obvious place to put them (there had been talk of an Uxbridge to
Acton Town or High Street Ken shuttle that would use them).

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On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 09:25:30 +0100
"Clive D. W. Feather" wrote:
They were totally unsuitable for JLE, of course. And there wasn't any
other obvious place to put them (there had been talk of an Uxbridge to
Acton Town or High Street Ken shuttle that would use them).

Does seem rather a waste though to bin trains only 15 years old. As the
D train shows, its quite possible to rebuild a tube train. They could have
widened the doors and slung them on the bakerloo.

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Spud

In article , (Clive D.
W. Feather) wrote:

In message , Mizter T
wrote:
The 83TS were hardly LU's finest hour. That said, they were designed in
a different era, where the expectations of passenger numbers were
rather more pessimistic. A mistake not to be repeated.

What was that wrong with them?

Yes, they had single leaf doors, but at the time the traffic patterns
on the Jubilee had almost everyone getting on at stations before
Baker Street and off at stations after it, and most of the line was
above ground, so the doors actually handled things well.

They were totally unsuitable for JLE, of course. And there wasn't any
other obvious place to put them (there had been talk of an Uxbridge
to Acton Town or High Street Ken shuttle that would use them).

I thought there were reliability issues? Also, weren't the bogies the same
as the D Stock which had to be replaced?

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Colin Rosenstiel

In article , y () wrote:

On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 09:25:30 +0100
"Clive D. W. Feather" wrote:
They were totally unsuitable for JLE, of course. And there wasn't any
other obvious place to put them (there had been talk of an Uxbridge to
Acton Town or High Street Ken shuttle that would use them).

Does seem rather a waste though to bin trains only 15 years old. As the
D train shows, its quite possible to rebuild a tube train. They could have
widened the doors and slung them on the bakerloo.

I think they considered things like that and decided it wasn't worth it.

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Colin Rosenstiel