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On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 10:23:23 +0000
Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 09:39:39 on Thu, 4 Feb 2016, d remarked: Its easy for the revenue guys little handheld machine to check a valid oyster card or not since the data is held on the card. But how do they deal with contactless bank cards? The card itself will have no knowledge of the journey and I doubt these devices have a wifi connection to TfL HQ to check if the bank account has any money in it and whether the card has been touched in etc so how does it work? Or not? Simply by the T&C of using a contactless card on TfL allows them charge the card later (without any further seeking of permission) if it emerges that the fare wasn't paid. So the hand held reader just records the card number and a check is done later? Makes sense. As for "burner cards" (I've got two of them) that's just a cost of doing Burner cards? business. Whether they'd chase an offender for one lost fare is debateable, although they might well prosecute a sample repeat offender and make sure it's in the newspaper "to encourage the others". They'd have to trace the card owner through the bank first. I very much doubt the bank would oblidge them without a warrant and if its a foreign bank they can forget it. -- Spud |
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On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 11:59:13 +0000
Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 11:01:00 on Thu, 4 Feb 2016, d remarked: As for "burner cards" (I've got two of them) that's just a cost of doing Burner cards? Prepay cards - I've got two and one has zero on it the other about a tenner. Might get one of them. They issued by your bank or can you just but them somewhere? They'd have to trace the card owner through the bank first. I very much doubt the bank would oblidge them without a warrant and if its a foreign bank they can forget it. Given that the police and the banks run a joint card-fraud operation, I suspect that it wouldn't be as hard as you think (and there are special Ah, but I doubt NOT using your card when you should have counts as card fraud as far as the banks are concerned. -- Spud |
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In message , at 12:07:13 on Thu, 4 Feb
2016, d remarked: As for "burner cards" (I've got two of them) that's just a cost of doing Burner cards? Prepay cards - I've got two and one has zero on it the other about a tenner. Might get one of them. They issued by your bank or can you just but them somewhere? It's hard to find contactless ones, but I got an "Orange" card (yes, the mobile phone company) but they recently threw in the towel[1] and the business has been rebranded: http://www.myoptimumcard.co.uk/ They'd have to trace the card owner through the bank first. I very much doubt the bank would oblidge them without a warrant and if its a foreign bank they can forget it. Given that the police and the banks run a joint card-fraud operation, I suspect that it wouldn't be as hard as you think (and there are special Ah, but I doubt NOT using your card when you should have counts as card fraud as far as the banks are concerned. No, but doing a runner after failing to have the funds loaded, when they later try to charge the card, might be. [1] As they also did with their Film-Wednesdays incentive. -- Roland Perry |
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