In message , at 06:33:49 on Thu,
3 Mar 2016, Mike Bristow remarked:

There is, perhaps, an interesting debate to be had about how close
two platforms can be to count as an interchange; my suspicion is
that Forest Gate / Wanstead Park are close enough for any sensible
gap - if they're not, then interchanges between the Central Line
and Northern at Bank probably don't count either.

I was surprised how far it was from Bow Road to Bow Church. About 300m,
and also in the opposite direction to the way it's depicted on the tube
map.
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Roland Perry

On 2016-03-03 06:33:49 +0000, Mike Bristow said:

There is, perhaps, an interesting debate to be had about how close
two platforms can be to count as an interchange; my suspicion is
that Forest Gate / Wanstead Park are close enough for any sensible
gap - if they're not, then interchanges between the Central Line
and Northern at Bank probably don't count either.

Bank is an awful lot worse, because in the peak they actually make you
walk further deliberately to avoid congestion in certain parts of the
station. There are good reasons for this, but it doesn't make the
station a good choice for anyone of limited mobility.

Neil
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Neil Williams
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I have used the Forest Gate interchange several times, the walk between stations is perfectly reasonable.

This morning I met a woman who has severe back problems as
has her 70 year old mother. She told me she has difficulties in
walking or standing up for long periods.

So at what point do we stop showing an interchange? What if that walk is entirely within the gateline? What about the walk between main line platforms and Underground?

I suggest you are approaching this from the wrong angle.
The key requirement is not to mislead people who are physically
disadvantaged. Therefore any connection can be shown as long
as the map makes clear the distances involved.

As an example, a middle-aged woman with heavy luggage
travelling from Bedford to Walthamstow needs to know that
trudging from St. Pancras International to the Victoria Line
platforms is quite a hike. Does this mean that a map should
not show a connection at St. Pancras? Of course not. It means
that additional information needs to be given. (It also means
that a travelator should have been installed when they re-built
that station)

On 2016-03-01 22:16:02 +0000, Paul Corfield said:

Accident I reckon. There are often inconsistencies when things are
done at the last minute as all the Elizabeth Line stuff is. Even the
Crossraiil site itself has maps that are all out of date. For example
they don't feature the West Anglia / Romford - Upminster Overground
lines and none of them show an Overground connection at Forest Gate. I
expect the Lizzie Line map was derived from what has been done for
Crossrail hence the error being perpetuated.

I note that on the Elizabeth Line map the accessibility icons are the
wrong way round. Only the new-build stations will have step-free
access from train to platform, the map says the opposite.

Neil
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Neil Williams
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On 2016\03\02 10:01, Neil Williams wrote:
On 2016-03-01 22:16:02 +0000, Paul Corfield said:

Accident I reckon. There are often inconsistencies when things are
done at the last minute as all the Elizabeth Line stuff is. Even the
Crossraiil site itself has maps that are all out of date. For example
they don't feature the West Anglia / Romford - Upminster Overground
lines and none of them show an Overground connection at Forest Gate. I
expect the Lizzie Line map was derived from what has been done for
Crossrail hence the error being perpetuated.

I note that on the Elizabeth Line map the accessibility icons are the
wrong way round. Only the new-build stations will have step-free access
from train to platform, the map says the opposite.

This has been publicised.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/trans...-a3188126.html