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eastender[_5_] May 7th 16 07:54 PM

Mayor Sadiq
 
On 2016-05-07 11:48:35 +0000, d said:

On Sat, 7 May 2016 11:04:04 +0100
eastender wrote:
On 2016-05-06 19:40:40 +0000,
d said:
Indeed. Perhaps the former human rights parasite who's just been voted in
and used to sue the police for compensation for assorted scum, can ask some

of
the people he used to share a platform with what the latest bomb making
techniques are and figure out how to defend the tube against them.


Your mate David Furness got 13,325 votes - so there are a few more like
you in the city but thankfully too few to matter.


Yes, there are few like me left in london - ie white english. As more than
one person has said , its not an english city any more. Its an oversized
tower of bable full of international scum, rich and poor.


Think of it this way - they are diluting the real scum, ie you. At my
sports club last week I met a Peruvian midwife working in the NHS. The
irony is she would deliver the child of a racist but receive no thanks
for doing so.

And it's Babel, not bable.


Recliner[_3_] May 8th 16 08:59 AM

Mayor Sadiq
 
Offramp wrote:
The media keep describing him as the first muslim mayor, but there have
only been two others!


Rather more than that. He's the first Moslem mayor of *any* Western capital
city, not just London.

He's also the Brit with the largest-ever personal mandate:
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-...tical-history/


Paul Cummins May 8th 16 09:38 AM

Mayor Sadiq
 
In article ,
d () wrote:

As more than one person has said , its not an english city any more.
Its an oversized tower of bable full of international scum, rich and
poor.


Funny, I've never seen that quote before.

Funnier is that Londinium and its progeny has never been an English City
in it's more than 2000 year history.

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[email protected] May 8th 16 12:45 PM

Mayor Sadiq
 
On Sat, 7 May 2016 20:54:33 +0100
eastender wrote:
On 2016-05-07 11:48:35 +0000, d said:

On Sat, 7 May 2016 11:04:04 +0100
eastender wrote:
On 2016-05-06 19:40:40 +0000,
d said:
Indeed. Perhaps the former human rights parasite who's just been voted in
and used to sue the police for compensation for assorted scum, can ask some
of
the people he used to share a platform with what the latest bomb making
techniques are and figure out how to defend the tube against them.

Your mate David Furness got 13,325 votes - so there are a few more like
you in the city but thankfully too few to matter.


Yes, there are few like me left in london - ie white english. As more than
one person has said , its not an english city any more. Its an oversized
tower of bable full of international scum, rich and poor.


Think of it this way - they are diluting the real scum, ie you. At my
sports club last week I met a Peruvian midwife working in the NHS. The
irony is she would deliver the child of a racist but receive no thanks
for doing so.


Awww bless, did you embrace the inclusive rainbow diversity and feel good
about yourself?

And it's Babel, not bable.


Says the mouth breathing window licker who doesn't even know the difference
between race and nationality like most of the morons of the left.

--
Spud


Roland Perry May 8th 16 01:21 PM

Mayor Sadiq
 
In message
-sept
ember.org, at 08:59:56 on Sun, 8 May 2016, Recliner
remarked:
He's also the Brit with the largest-ever personal mandate:
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-...tical-history/


1.3m votes (including second preference) from a City of 8.5m people only
5.5m have registered to vote is not that big of an endorsement.

But as an out-of-London person, I'll be doing my best to keep him to his
very clear promise not to increase TfL fares for the next four years.

Not a big bus user currently, but his promise of transferable fares for
an hour is also something which might well make me use them more.
--
Roland Perry

Walter Briscoe May 9th 16 01:02 PM

Mayor Sadiq
 
In message of Sun, 8 May
2016 15:06:07 in uk.transport.london, Paul Corfield
writes
On Fri, 6 May 2016 18:39:37 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote:


[snip]
The word "bus" was mentioned 7 times in his manifesto (yes I did
check). Six of those mentions were in connection with the 1 hour
ticket proposals. There are NO policies that support the expansion or
the improvement of the bus network. "Maintaining the quality" is as
far as it got.


I had missed Sadiq's policy on bus fares, before Paul referred to it.
It is in http://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net...b9526a21db3279
000001/attachments/original/1457451016/x160668_Sadiq_Khan_Manifesto.pdf?
1457451016
It says he will "Freeze TfL transport fares for four years and introduce
a one-hour bus ‘Hopper’ ticket ..."
I guess that could be loaded on Oyster cards.
I currently have
11:46 Bus journey, route 21 £1.50 £9.40
11:28 Bus journey, route 100 £1.50 £10.90
Presumably I could have
12:30 Bus journey, route 43 £1.50 £9.40
11:46 Bus journey, route 21 £0.00 £10.90
11:28 Bus journey, route 100 £1.50 £10.90

I trust bus validators are capable of the additional logic.
Paul referred somewhere to cancellation of a project to replace
validators. Contactless should be no problem as pricing seems tobe a
batch operation, rather than being done in real time.

He does not address contactless being potentially cheaper than Ouster.
(The former supports Monday-Sunday caps; the latter does not.)

Caroline Pidgeon has had similar ideas for ages. Ottawa had similar
charding 25 years ago. Better late than never.

By the way, I looked at the Additional Member Figures.
(I had to do the calculations, myself. London Elects will show them,
real soon(;) Wikipedia (London Assembly elections, 2016) agrees with my
numbers. The last elected additional member will sit for UKIP with a
quotient of 85534. The Women's Equality Party, having got a 3.6% share,
was excluded for not managing 5%. Their quotient would have been 91772.
Tories have been bleating about Barnet; WEP seems to have maintained a
dignified silence. (No, I did not vote for them ;)
--
Walter Briscoe

Roland Perry May 9th 16 02:22 PM

Mayor Sadiq
 
In message , at 14:02:08 on Mon, 9
May 2016, Walter Briscoe remarked:
It says he will "Freeze TfL transport fares for four years and introduce
a one-hour bus ‘Hopper’ ticket ..."


Is the Hopper one hour between first and last touch-in, given that
people don't touch *out*?
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry May 9th 16 02:54 PM

Mayor Sadiq
 
In message , at 15:46:23 on
Mon, 9 May 2016, Paul Corfield remarked:
As we have no commercial product definition for the "Hopper Ticket" it
is impossible to say whether the technology currently on buses and in
central systems can support the new product. I could speculate in all
sorts of ways as to how it could work but there'd be no point. My
only observation would be that I can't see that it will be a "quick
fix" issue taking only weeks to introduce.


If it's based on the current hardware, then an "hourly cap" would seem
to fit the bill, and the Oyster daily capping software is already in
place (isn't it?)
--
Roland Perry

Recliner[_3_] May 9th 16 03:30 PM

Mayor Sadiq
 
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 15:46:23 on
Mon, 9 May 2016, Paul Corfield remarked:
As we have no commercial product definition for the "Hopper Ticket" it
is impossible to say whether the technology currently on buses and in
central systems can support the new product. I could speculate in all
sorts of ways as to how it could work but there'd be no point. My
only observation would be that I can't see that it will be a "quick
fix" issue taking only weeks to introduce.


If it's based on the current hardware, then an "hourly cap" would seem
to fit the bill, and the Oyster daily capping software is already in
place (isn't it?)


Yes, the logic for an hourly cap seems simple enough, although I suppose
there's bound to be some strange edge cases.

Given that he also promises to freeze fares, I wonder how he plans to make
up the revenue loss?


Roland Perry May 9th 16 04:03 PM

Mayor Sadiq
 
In message
-sept
ember.org, at 15:30:53 on Mon, 9 May 2016, Recliner
remarked:
As we have no commercial product definition for the "Hopper Ticket" it
is impossible to say whether the technology currently on buses and in
central systems can support the new product. I could speculate in all
sorts of ways as to how it could work but there'd be no point. My
only observation would be that I can't see that it will be a "quick
fix" issue taking only weeks to introduce.


If it's based on the current hardware, then an "hourly cap" would seem
to fit the bill, and the Oyster daily capping software is already in
place (isn't it?)


Yes, the logic for an hourly cap seems simple enough, although I suppose
there's bound to be some strange edge cases.

Given that he also promises to freeze fares, I wonder how he plans to make
up the revenue loss?


Stuffing ever more passengers onto the existing buses and tubes?
--
Roland Perry


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