Very interesting to learn about the 8.08.

Do or have any trains in revenue service run between Upper Holloway and
Thameslink lines via Junction Road Junction since 1981?

Has anything ever run that way for engineering works, in the same manner
that the NLL has travelled via Primrose Hill?

In article , (Basil Jet)
wrote:

On 2016\05\22 12:34, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 22/05/2016 11:46, e27002 aurora wrote:

How easy would it be to convert the bay, at Gospel Oak, into a thru
platform? When electrification is complete a thru service could be
useful.

There's physically space to convert it to a *through* platform. The
pointwork to the west may need altering to allow east bound trains to
access the platform.

Just the one through platform for both directions? (Yes, I know Ware
Station is like that.)

Are there paths for the full Goblin service to extend westward? Is
there need for that many trains westward? Although it would be "neat"
if the full Goblin service went to Clapham Junction and the full
Stratford service went to Richmond.

What GOBLIN frequency is planned post-electrification (currently 4 an hour)?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Sun, 22 May 2016 14:17:14 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote:

Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\05\22 12:34, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 22/05/2016 11:46, e27002 aurora wrote:

How easy would it be to convert the bay, at Gospel Oak, into a thru
platform? When electrification is complete a thru service could be
useful.

There's physically space to convert it to a *through* platform. The
pointwork to the west may need altering to allow east bound trains to
access the platform.

Just the one through platform for both directions? (Yes, I know Ware
Station is like that.)

Are there paths for the full Goblin service to extend westward? Is there
need for that many trains westward? Although it would be "neat" if the
full Goblin service went to Clapham Junction and the full Stratford
service went to Richmond.

One minor point, but the new GOBLIN trains will be four-car Aventras,
rather than the five-car 378s used on the NLL. Wasting a scarce NLL path on
a four-car unit wouldn't go down well.

They "waste" a path on a 2 or 4 coach DMU to Willesden Junction every
weekday morning; I suspect the passengers see it as a relief rather
than a nuisance.

wrote:

In article ,
(Basil Jet) wrote:

On 2016\05\22 12:34, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 22/05/2016 11:46, e27002 aurora wrote:

How easy would it be to convert the bay, at Gospel Oak, into a
thru platform? When electrification is complete a thru service
could be useful.

There's physically space to convert it to a through platform. The
pointwork to the west may need altering to allow east bound
trains to access the platform.

Just the one through platform for both directions? (Yes, I know
Ware Station is like that.)

Are there paths for the full Goblin service to extend westward? Is
there need for that many trains westward? Although it would be
"neat" if the full Goblin service went to Clapham Junction and the
full Stratford service went to Richmond.

What GOBLIN frequency is planned post-electrification (currently 4 an
hour)?

No change at present (although the longer trains will mean a
significant capacity increase).

Peter Smyth

In article ,
(Charles Ellson) wrote:

On Sun, 22 May 2016 14:17:14 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote:

Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\05\22 12:34, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 22/05/2016 11:46, e27002 aurora wrote:

How easy would it be to convert the bay, at Gospel Oak, into a thru
platform? When electrification is complete a thru service could be
useful.

There's physically space to convert it to a *through* platform. The
pointwork to the west may need altering to allow east bound trains to
access the platform.

Just the one through platform for both directions? (Yes, I know Ware
Station is like that.)

Are there paths for the full Goblin service to extend westward? Is
there need for that many trains westward? Although it would be "neat"
if the full Goblin service went to Clapham Junction and the full
Stratford service went to Richmond.

One minor point, but the new GOBLIN trains will be four-car Aventras,
rather than the five-car 378s used on the NLL. Wasting a scarce NLL path
on a four-car unit wouldn't go down well.

They "waste" a path on a 2 or 4 coach DMU to Willesden Junction every
weekday morning; I suspect the passengers see it as a relief rather
than a nuisance.

It is one train (presumably fitted between freight paths) rather than a
regular service which would be quite a different timetabling challenge.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On 2016\05\22 23:12, Peter Smyth wrote:
wrote:

In article ,
(Basil Jet) wrote:

On 2016\05\22 12:34, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 22/05/2016 11:46, e27002 aurora wrote:

How easy would it be to convert the bay, at Gospel Oak, into a
thru platform? When electrification is complete a thru service
could be useful.

There's physically space to convert it to a through platform. The
pointwork to the west may need altering to allow east bound
trains to access the platform.

Just the one through platform for both directions? (Yes, I know
Ware Station is like that.)

Are there paths for the full Goblin service to extend westward? Is
there need for that many trains westward? Although it would be
"neat" if the full Goblin service went to Clapham Junction and the
full Stratford service went to Richmond.

What GOBLIN frequency is planned post-electrification (currently 4 an
hour)?

No change at present (although the longer trains will mean a
significant capacity increase).

They will be running 5tph peak service when the line is half-closed.

Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\05\22 23:12, Peter Smyth wrote:
wrote:

In article ,
(Basil Jet) wrote:

On 2016\05\22 12:34, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 22/05/2016 11:46, e27002 aurora wrote:

How easy would it be to convert the bay, at Gospel Oak, into a
thru platform? When electrification is complete a thru service
could be useful.

There's physically space to convert it to a through platform. The
pointwork to the west may need altering to allow east bound
trains to access the platform.

Just the one through platform for both directions? (Yes, I know
Ware Station is like that.)

Are there paths for the full Goblin service to extend westward? Is
there need for that many trains westward? Although it would be
"neat" if the full Goblin service went to Clapham Junction and the
full Stratford service went to Richmond.

What GOBLIN frequency is planned post-electrification (currently 4 an
hour)?

No change at present (although the longer trains will mean a
significant capacity increase).

They will be running 5tph peak service when the line is half-closed.

Presumably that's possible both because of the lack of freight trains and
more stock available?