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Default TfL box in Willesden Church End

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&...336.14,,2,7.92

Is it a toilet? It looks new, but the bus stand alongside appears to have no
routes terminating there. If it's a toilet, is it scheduled to be regularly
cleaned, despite the possibility that no-one has used it since it was last
cleaned? Can the people inside see who is outside, because emerging blind
from a box in this unsavoury neighbourhood seems dangerous. The area of the
pedestal seems extravagant - although come to think of it, the fact that a
facility which could so easily have been made wheelchair accessible has been
almost deliberately made inaccessible seems surprising too.



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On 14 July, 11:55, "Basil Jet"
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http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&...,-0.249767&spn...

Is it a toilet?


There's a very similar box on Dalston Lane, which I believe is a
toilet for the bus stand the

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&so...352.2,,1,14.12
(or http://tinyurl.com/kudnjw )

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On Jul 14, 11:55*am, "Basil Jet"
wrote:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&...,-0.249767&spn...

Is it a toilet? It looks new, but the bus stand alongside appears to have no
routes terminating there. If it's a toilet, is it scheduled to be regularly
cleaned, despite the possibility that no-one has used it since it was last
cleaned? Can the people inside see who is outside, because emerging blind
from a box in this unsavoury neighbourhood seems dangerous. The area of the
pedestal seems extravagant - although come to think of it, the fact that a
facility which could so easily have been made wheelchair accessible has been
almost deliberately made inaccessible seems surprising too.


This is a standard type of pre-fabricated toilet that TfL installs at
key locations for the use of bus drivers - said key locations
basically being places where buses layover. If a bus no longer lays
over there, then I assume it's a legacy from the past. I dare say
that, having gone to the trouble of installing it, TfL wouldn't
immediately remove it the moment buses no longer used that location as
a layover point, just in case the situation changes and another route
started to make use of it.

And whilst it exists and may be used again, it's presumably better to
keep it on the 'maintenance schedule' of all such facilities to ensure
that it's kept ticking over, instead of having to do expensive work to
bring it back up to scratch as and when it's needed again. Whether
that would involve it being cleaned internally as such I've no idea.
(Indeed I've no idea whether it would even still be on the
'maintenance schedule' at all - just postulating that if it was, it
wouldn't actually be such a daft idea.)

These toilets are for the use of bus drivers and staff only, and thus
far there aren't any wheelchair using bus drivers! (A policy that I
think we can probably agree is fair enough!) Hence no need to make it
wheelchair accessible.


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