"Recliner" wrote in message
...
tim... wrote:


As I said previously, I don't believe that the type of car required to be
an
Uber driver is the type of car that someone who wants to increase their
income by a few tens of pounds a week working ****ty hours as an Uber
driver, will already have sitting on their drive.

and 7 grand a year isn't enough to finance such a car after you have paid
the other expenses.

I still don't get it (from the pov of the driver).

Many Uber drivers are also local minicab drivers. Some might also driver
for other apps. So the same car is used to generate more than one income
stream.

Whilst I have no personal knowledge of this,

many of the reports that I have read say that it is impossible use this MO
because the London mini-cab companies insist that you rent the car from them
when you drive for them. Your own car sits on your drive.

Also, the number of Uber drivers at any one date is probably much lower
than the numbers cited.

Hm - not convinced (that the papers would report it that way, not that it
doesn't happen)

On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 11:36:50 +0100, "tim..."
wrote:


"Recliner" wrote in message
...
tim... wrote:


As I said previously, I don't believe that the type of car required to be
an
Uber driver is the type of car that someone who wants to increase their
income by a few tens of pounds a week working ****ty hours as an Uber
driver, will already have sitting on their drive.

and 7 grand a year isn't enough to finance such a car after you have paid
the other expenses.

I still don't get it (from the pov of the driver).

Many Uber drivers are also local minicab drivers. Some might also driver
for other apps. So the same car is used to generate more than one income
stream.

Whilst I have no personal knowledge of this,

many of the reports that I have read say that it is impossible use this MO
because the London mini-cab companies insist that you rent the car from them
when you drive for them. Your own car sits on your drive.

It almost certainly depends on the firm. I'm sure many of the drivers
are using their own cars. It doesn't take long on Google to find ads
like this:
http://www.swiftcars.co.uk/employment-opportunities/

REQUIREMENTS:

-Own Vehicle in good condition, 2010 Reg or above.

– Minimum 1 months minicab work experience in London.

-spoken and written English language

-good knowledge of Central London

-OWN PROFESSIONAL NAVIGATION SYSTEM WITH LIVE TRAFFIC INFORMATION

-PCO license

PDA, Manuals, Support and Training provided.


Or this:
http://www.indeed.co.uk/cmp/Clock-Ca...Minicab+Driver



Also, the number of Uber drivers at any one date is probably much lower
than the numbers cited.

Hm - not convinced (that the papers would report it that way, not that it
doesn't happen)

They probably get the number from Uber -- who else would know? And
I'm sure that there;s a steady stream of drivers giving it a go, and
then deciding it's not for them. But they probably remain registered
as Uber drivers. Also that report was based on last year's figures,
when the number of driver's would have been lower on average.

In message , at 13:59:56 on
Wed, 12 Oct 2016, Recliner remarked:

many of the reports that I have read say that it is impossible use this MO
because the London mini-cab companies insist that you rent the car from them
when you drive for them. Your own car sits on your drive.

It almost certainly depends on the firm. I'm sure many of the drivers
are using their own cars.

One common business model is that you have to rent the 2-way radio from
the minicab firm (and that's a kind of "retainer fee" for the firm). Of
course, Uber has made those redundant.
--
Roland Perry

On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 14:17:44 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:59:56 on
Wed, 12 Oct 2016, Recliner remarked:

many of the reports that I have read say that it is impossible use this MO
because the London mini-cab companies insist that you rent the car from them
when you drive for them. Your own car sits on your drive.

It almost certainly depends on the firm. I'm sure many of the drivers
are using their own cars.

One common business model is that you have to rent the 2-way radio from
the minicab firm (and that's a kind of "retainer fee" for the firm). Of
course, Uber has made those redundant.

I think they've been redundant for a while. I use minicabs 3 or 4 times a
year and I can't remember the last time I saw a 2 way radio in one. It was
mobile phones long before Uber came along.

--
Spud

wrote:
On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 14:17:44 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:59:56 on
Wed, 12 Oct 2016, Recliner remarked:

many of the reports that I have read say that it is impossible use this MO
because the London mini-cab companies insist that you rent the car from them
when you drive for them. Your own car sits on your drive.

It almost certainly depends on the firm. I'm sure many of the drivers
are using their own cars.

One common business model is that you have to rent the 2-way radio from
the minicab firm (and that's a kind of "retainer fee" for the firm). Of
course, Uber has made those redundant.

I think they've been redundant for a while. I use minicabs 3 or 4 times a
year and I can't remember the last time I saw a 2 way radio in one. It was
mobile phones long before Uber came along.

Yes, same here.

In message
-sept
ember.org, at 15:23:31 on Wed, 12 Oct 2016, Recliner
remarked:
One common business model is that you have to rent the 2-way radio from
the minicab firm (and that's a kind of "retainer fee" for the firm). Of
course, Uber has made those redundant.

I think they've been redundant for a while. I use minicabs 3 or 4 times a
year and I can't remember the last time I saw a 2 way radio in one. It was
mobile phones long before Uber came along.

Yes, same here.

I've not been in a minicab for about six years, but the one up until
then had the 2-way radios.
--
Roland Perry

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 11:36:50AM +0100, tim... wrote:
Many Uber drivers are also local minicab drivers. Some might also driver
for other apps. So the same car is used to generate more than one income
stream.

Whilst I have no personal knowledge of this, many of the reports that
I have read say that it is impossible use this MO because the London
mini-cab companies insist that you rent the car from them when you
drive for them.

If that were the case Uber wouldn't have been so cross about TfL's
proposal to make it much harder for a driver to work for multiple cab
companies. Not saying that it doesn't happen, but it clearly isn't the
case for all operators.

If you think about it - if cab companies owned (or even rented a fleet)
of cars and rented them out to drivers, those cars would have their
branding on. At least their name and phone number. That's rare in
London. Most mini-cabs have no branding on them at all.

--
David Cantrell | Enforcer, South London Linguistic Massive

comparative and superlative explained:

Huhn worse, worser, worsest, worsted, wasted

In message , at 16:57:38
on Mon, 17 Oct 2016, David Cantrell remarked:

If you think about it - if cab companies owned (or even rented a fleet)
of cars and rented them out to drivers, those cars would have their
branding on. At least their name and phone number. That's rare in
London. Most mini-cabs have no branding on them at all.

Addison Lee being one the few which do.
--
Roland Perry

Exactly. One of the very few.

With almost all minicab firms in London, the driver obtains
the car himself - by buying, by leasing, by renting on a
week-to-week basis - and the car is effectively his to work
with wherever and with whomever he wants.

In article ,
(Robin9) wrote:

*Subject:* Is Uber Bleeding to Death?
*From:* Robin9
*Date:* Tue, 18 Oct 2016 11:00:55 +0200

Roland Perry;158741 Wrote:
In message , at
16:57:38 on Mon, 17 Oct 2016, David Cantrell
remarked:
-
If you think about it - if cab companies owned (or even rented a
fleet)
of cars and rented them out to drivers, those cars would have their
branding on. At least their name and phone number. That's rare in
London. Most mini-cabs have no branding on them at all.-

Addison Lee being one the few which do.

Exactly. One of the very few.

One of the few firms, sure, but what proportion of the hire cars?

With almost all minicab firms in London, the driver obtains
the car himself - by buying, by leasing, by renting on a
week-to-week basis - and the car is effectively his to work
with wherever and with whomever he wants.

How large are such fleets though?

--
Colin Rosenstiel