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Turning London orange
wrote in message ... On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 15:29:59 +0100 " wrote: On 21.09.16 21:31, Recliner wrote: TfL's grand vision for turning London's suburban overground services into the Overground: http://metro.co.uk/2016/09/21/london...very-different 6143328/ I got an idea. Let's just turn the entire network, from Penzance to Wick, orange. Indeed. Its really not very well thought out if this is an official TfL mock up. And what the obsession with TfL taking over all the south london lines is god knows. Anyone who thinks the unions will give them an easy time because they're a public corp rather than a TOC has obviously been living in a cave for the last 20 years. -- Spud The seem to think that they can magic up slots to provide a 10 minute frequency on every route whilst this might work on the routes that terminate inside (or just outside) of the London "Zone", this is not going to work for the routes which carry main line services to the coast tim |
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wrote in message ... On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 15:29:59 +0100 " wrote: On 21.09.16 21:31, Recliner wrote: TfL's grand vision for turning London's suburban overground services into the Overground: http://metro.co.uk/2016/09/21/london...very-different 6143328/ I got an idea. Let's just turn the entire network, from Penzance to Wick, orange. Indeed. Its really not very well thought out if this is an official TfL mock up. And what the obsession with TfL taking over all the south london lines is god knows. Anyone who thinks the unions will give them an easy time because they're a public corp rather than a TOC has obviously been living in a cave for the last 20 years. -- Spud The seem to think that they can magic up slots to provide a 10 minute frequency on every route whilst this might work on the routes that terminate inside (or just outside) of the London "Zone", this is not going to work for the routes which carry main line services to the coast I don't think their vision extends that far. TfL wants to take over the stopping metro routes that run a little outside the zones (to places like Dartford), not all the way to the coast. |
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On 22.09.16 16:48, Recliner wrote:
tim... wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 15:29:59 +0100 " wrote: On 21.09.16 21:31, Recliner wrote: TfL's grand vision for turning London's suburban overground services into the Overground: http://metro.co.uk/2016/09/21/london...very-different 6143328/ I got an idea. Let's just turn the entire network, from Penzance to Wick, orange. Indeed. Its really not very well thought out if this is an official TfL mock up. And what the obsession with TfL taking over all the south london lines is god knows. Anyone who thinks the unions will give them an easy time because they're a public corp rather than a TOC has obviously been living in a cave for the last 20 years. -- Spud The seem to think that they can magic up slots to provide a 10 minute frequency on every route whilst this might work on the routes that terminate inside (or just outside) of the London "Zone", this is not going to work for the routes which carry main line services to the coast I don't think their vision extends that far. TfL wants to take over the stopping metro routes that run a little outside the zones (to places like Dartford), not all the way to the coast. Is there not a plan, however, for the TfL Empire to take over the Thameslink lime out to Brighton? |
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 12:11:43 -0500,
wrote: In article , () wrote: On 22.09.16 16:48, Recliner wrote: tim... wrote: wrote in message On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 15:29:59 +0100 " wrote: On 21.09.16 21:31, Recliner wrote: TfL's grand vision for turning London's suburban overground services into the Overground: http://metro.co.uk/2016/09/21/london...o-look-very-di fferent6143328/ I got an idea. Let's just turn the entire network, from Penzance to Wick, orange. Indeed. Its really not very well thought out if this is an official TfL mock up. And what the obsession with TfL taking over all the south london lines is god knows. Anyone who thinks the unions will give them an easy time because they're a public corp rather than a TOC has obviously been living in a cave for the last 20 years. The seem to think that they can magic up slots to provide a 10 minute frequency on every route whilst this might work on the routes that terminate inside (or just outside) of the London "Zone", this is not going to work for the routes which carry main line services to the coast I don't think their vision extends that far. TfL wants to take over the stopping metro routes that run a little outside the zones (to places like Dartford), not all the way to the coast. Is there not a plan, however, for the TfL Empire to take over the Thameslink lime out to Brighton? No, not even Thameslink within Greater London. Good. |
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On 22.09.16 16:48, Recliner wrote: tim... wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 15:29:59 +0100 " wrote: On 21.09.16 21:31, Recliner wrote: TfL's grand vision for turning London's suburban overground services into the Overground: http://metro.co.uk/2016/09/21/london...very-different 6143328/ I got an idea. Let's just turn the entire network, from Penzance to Wick, orange. Indeed. Its really not very well thought out if this is an official TfL mock up. And what the obsession with TfL taking over all the south london lines is god knows. Anyone who thinks the unions will give them an easy time because they're a public corp rather than a TOC has obviously been living in a cave for the last 20 years. -- Spud The seem to think that they can magic up slots to provide a 10 minute frequency on every route whilst this might work on the routes that terminate inside (or just outside) of the London "Zone", this is not going to work for the routes which carry main line services to the coast I don't think their vision extends that far. TfL wants to take over the stopping metro routes that run a little outside the zones (to places like Dartford), not all the way to the coast. Is there not a plan, however, for the TfL Empire to take over the Thameslink lime out to Brighton? Not that I'm aware of, and not according to the news report. Do you have a link? |
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On 22.09.16 20:00, Recliner wrote:
wrote: On 22.09.16 16:48, Recliner wrote: tim... wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 15:29:59 +0100 " wrote: On 21.09.16 21:31, Recliner wrote: TfL's grand vision for turning London's suburban overground services into the Overground: http://metro.co.uk/2016/09/21/london...very-different 6143328/ I got an idea. Let's just turn the entire network, from Penzance to Wick, orange. Indeed. Its really not very well thought out if this is an official TfL mock up. And what the obsession with TfL taking over all the south london lines is god knows. Anyone who thinks the unions will give them an easy time because they're a public corp rather than a TOC has obviously been living in a cave for the last 20 years. -- Spud The seem to think that they can magic up slots to provide a 10 minute frequency on every route whilst this might work on the routes that terminate inside (or just outside) of the London "Zone", this is not going to work for the routes which carry main line services to the coast I don't think their vision extends that far. TfL wants to take over the stopping metro routes that run a little outside the zones (to places like Dartford), not all the way to the coast. Is there not a plan, however, for the TfL Empire to take over the Thameslink lime out to Brighton? Not that I'm aware of, and not according to the news report. Do you have a link? No, I thought that I read it on this group. IIRC, it was more of a long-term plan, rather than anything around the corner. |
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On 22.09.16 20:00, Recliner wrote: wrote: On 22.09.16 16:48, Recliner wrote: tim... wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 15:29:59 +0100 " wrote: On 21.09.16 21:31, Recliner wrote: TfL's grand vision for turning London's suburban overground services into the Overground: http://metro.co.uk/2016/09/21/london...very-different 6143328/ I got an idea. Let's just turn the entire network, from Penzance to Wick, orange. Indeed. Its really not very well thought out if this is an official TfL mock up. And what the obsession with TfL taking over all the south london lines is god knows. Anyone who thinks the unions will give them an easy time because they're a public corp rather than a TOC has obviously been living in a cave for the last 20 years. -- Spud The seem to think that they can magic up slots to provide a 10 minute frequency on every route whilst this might work on the routes that terminate inside (or just outside) of the London "Zone", this is not going to work for the routes which carry main line services to the coast I don't think their vision extends that far. TfL wants to take over the stopping metro routes that run a little outside the zones (to places like Dartford), not all the way to the coast. Is there not a plan, however, for the TfL Empire to take over the Thameslink lime out to Brighton? Not that I'm aware of, and not according to the news report. Do you have a link? No, I thought that I read it on this group. IIRC, it was more of a long-term plan, rather than anything around the corner. It's certainly not a plan, and not even an aspiration as far as I'm aware. The aim is to take over suburban stopping services that run entirely or mainly in the GLA. The London mayor aims to deliver better, more coordinated local services to local voters. |
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-sept ember.org, at 14:45:29 on Fri, 23 Sep 2016, Recliner remarked: The London mayor aims to deliver better, more coordinated local services to local voters. In the same way he aimed not to raise fares, and within days of taking office had to retract? -- Roland Perry |
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Turning London orange
On 23/09/2016 15:45, Recliner wrote: wrote: [...] Is there not a plan, however, for the TfL Empire to take over the Thameslink lime out to Brighton? Not that I'm aware of, and not according to the news report. Do you have a link? No, I thought that I read it on this group. IIRC, it was more of a long-term plan, rather than anything around the corner. It's certainly not a plan, and not even an aspiration as far as I'm aware. The aim is to take over suburban stopping services that run entirely or mainly in the GLA. The London mayor aims to deliver better, more coordinated local services to local voters. Was there not someone suggesting that TfL management could be drafted in to try and sort out the slow-motion train wreck that is Southern/GTR? Not something that has ever been Mayoral / TfL policy. Nor something I'd imagine anyone in TfL would actually want to do. |
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