In message , at 15:06:47 on Fri, 14 Oct
2016, tim... remarked:

we already have 30 million sunk cost

what did that pay for?

The project so far?

which as it can't possible be for any construction work must be the
design work.

And I would expect (give the total size of the expected costs) that 30
million would pay for the complete design work necessary. Not just
some holding work with more to come later.

The only reason that you keep such designers on a retainer after they
have completed the design is to make sure that the buiders actually
build to the design and that's going to be a minimal amount of work.

It's most of the work (see the way Cambridge CC botched monitoring BAM
Nuttall delivering the Guided Busway).
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 15:06:47 on Fri, 14 Oct 2016,
tim... remarked:

we already have 30 million sunk cost

what did that pay for?

The project so far?

which as it can't possible be for any construction work must be the design
work.

And I would expect (give the total size of the expected costs) that 30
million would pay for the complete design work necessary. Not just some
holding work with more to come later.

The only reason that you keep such designers on a retainer after they have
completed the design is to make sure that the buiders actually build to
the design and that's going to be a minimal amount of work.

It's most of the work

don't be silly

architects fees for overseeing build works are usually 5% of the build costs
(and the retainer is going to be a percentage of that)

(see the way Cambridge CC botched monitoring BAM Nuttall delivering the
Guided Busway).

This was a major project undertaken by an authority that didn't usually
undertake such major projects

That it went wrong proves nothing

tim

In message , at 17:32:17 on Fri, 14 Oct
2016, tim... remarked:
The only reason that you keep such designers on a retainer after they
have completed the design is to make sure that the buiders actually
build to the design and that's going to be a minimal amount of work.

It's most of the work

don't be silly

architects fees for overseeing build works are usually 5% of the build
costs (and the retainer is going to be a percentage of that)

It's most of the work done by the architects.

(see the way Cambridge CC botched monitoring BAM Nuttall delivering
the Guided Busway).

This was a major project undertaken by an authority that didn't usually
undertake such major projects

That it went wrong proves nothing

It proves that you need to spend years monitoring the build and the
snagging, not after you've spent not very long drawing up enough plans
to get the project funded.
--
Roland Perry