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What about the instances of cars losing control and leaving the road?


Ahh... that would be those magic cars that drive themselves then?

The *car* is not in control in the first place and therefore cannot lose
control. It is the *driver* that loses control.

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Mark Foster ) gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying :

What about the instances of cars losing control and leaving the road?


Ahh... that would be those magic cars that drive themselves then?


*Ding*

The *car* is not in control in the first place and therefore cannot lose
control. It is the *driver* that loses control.


Well, I s'pose there is the (very) rare case of a wheel falling off or
other mechanical failure. They're usually the result of poor maintenance,
though - which is..... the DRIVER's responsibility.
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Adrian wrote:
Mark Foster ) gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying :

What about the instances of cars losing control and leaving the
road?


Ahh... that would be those magic cars that drive themselves then?


*Ding*

The *car* is not in control in the first place and therefore cannot
lose control. It is the *driver* that loses control.


Well, I s'pose there is the (very) rare case of a wheel falling off or
other mechanical failure. They're usually the result of poor
maintenance, though - which is..... the DRIVER's responsibility.


The brakes failed on my family's Ford orion years ago, funnily enough the
day after it had been serviced by a Ford dealer... Fortunately we were only
trying to stop in an empty lay-by rather than for the roundabout further up
the road.


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"scott" wrote:

Adrian wrote:
Mark Foster ) gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying :

What about the instances of cars losing control and leaving the
road?


Ahh... that would be those magic cars that drive themselves then?


*Ding*

The *car* is not in control in the first place and therefore cannot
lose control. It is the *driver* that loses control.


Well, I s'pose there is the (very) rare case of a wheel falling off or
other mechanical failure. They're usually the result of poor
maintenance, though - which is..... the DRIVER's responsibility.


The brakes failed on my family's Ford orion years ago, funnily enough the
day after it had been serviced by a Ford dealer... Fortunately we were only
trying to stop in an empty lay-by rather than for the roundabout further up
the road.


It's still NOT the *car* that loses control. Even in the case of
mechanical failure it is the *driver* that loses control of the car. In
some, very rare, scenarios the driver may not be at fault but it is
still the *driver* that loses control.

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Mark Foster wrote:
In article ,
"scott" wrote:

Adrian wrote:
Mark Foster ) gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying :

What about the instances of cars losing control and leaving the
road?

Ahh... that would be those magic cars that drive themselves then?

*Ding*

The *car* is not in control in the first place and therefore cannot
lose control. It is the *driver* that loses control.

Well, I s'pose there is the (very) rare case of a wheel falling off
or other mechanical failure. They're usually the result of poor
maintenance, though - which is..... the DRIVER's responsibility.


The brakes failed on my family's Ford orion years ago, funnily
enough the day after it had been serviced by a Ford dealer...
Fortunately we were only trying to stop in an empty lay-by rather
than for the roundabout further up the road.


It's still NOT the *car* that loses control. Even in the case of
mechanical failure it is the *driver* that loses control of the car.
In some, very rare, scenarios the driver may not be at fault but it is
still the *driver* that loses control.


I never said it was! Isn't it obvious that the car can never be in control
of itself? ;-)




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scott wrote:

I never said it was! Isn't it obvious that the car can never be in
control of itself? ;-)


Radar guided adaptive cruise control? Whilst it's activated, the car has
control over everything except direction and the music being played on the
stereo.


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