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On 23/05/2017 17:01, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2017\05\23 16:57, d wrote:
On Tue, 23 May 2017 15:48:12 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 23 May 2017 14:59:39 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
Right, because you couldn't possibly do any of that in the control
tower.
And since when did security cameras have the same viewing field as
the
human
eye thats carried around in a skull and can look in any direction
almost
instantly including vertically down?

You're assuming the tower has a glass floor?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pqIGEo88RXA/maxresdefault.jpg

I guess ir never occured to you to wonder why the windows are angled
outwards
instead of being vertical.

Oh dear! I realise I should know better, but you keep amazing me
with your
ignorance.
Think again.
[Hint: they don't sit with their faces pressed against the windows.]

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7139/7...8d4de58c_b.jpg


You really are such a bell-end sometimes in your desperate quest to
disagree
with everything I say.

They don't sit with their faces pressed to the windows? No ****! But the
angled windows give them potentially a greater field of view if they
need to
check out stuff down below. Or did you think it was an architectural
flourish?
Aww, bless.


This is the best spud-ism ever! Shall we tell him?


No, watching him get more and more annoyed while he displays his
ignorance is such fun. I predict a stream of bad language any time now.

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Old May 24th 17, 08:29 AM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway
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On Tue, 23 May 2017 17:10:46 +0100
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 23/05/2017 17:01, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2017\05\23 16:57, d wrote:
On Tue, 23 May 2017 15:48:12 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 23 May 2017 14:59:39 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
Right, because you couldn't possibly do any of that in the control
tower.
And since when did security cameras have the same viewing field as
the
human
eye thats carried around in a skull and can look in any direction
almost
instantly including vertically down?

You're assuming the tower has a glass floor?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pqIGEo88RXA/maxresdefault.jpg

I guess ir never occured to you to wonder why the windows are angled
outwards
instead of being vertical.

Oh dear! I realise I should know better, but you keep amazing me
with your
ignorance.
Think again.
[Hint: they don't sit with their faces pressed against the windows.]

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7139/7...8d4de58c_b.jpg

You really are such a bell-end sometimes in your desperate quest to
disagree
with everything I say.

They don't sit with their faces pressed to the windows? No ****! But the
angled windows give them potentially a greater field of view if they
need to
check out stuff down below. Or did you think it was an architectural
flourish?
Aww, bless.


This is the best spud-ism ever! Shall we tell him?


No, watching him get more and more annoyed while he displays his
ignorance is such fun. I predict a stream of bad language any time now.


Why? You see a friends brother happens to be an ATC at city airport which is
why I already knew about that plan to lay them off, sorry , "transfer". And
guess what? They use the angled windows to look out and keeps tabs on what is
going on right beneath them when appropriate. So all you so called aviation
experts can shoev your google answers where the angled windows don't reach.

--
Spud


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Old May 24th 17, 01:54 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london
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wrote:
On Tue, 23 May 2017 17:10:46 +0100
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 23/05/2017 17:01, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2017\05\23 16:57, d wrote:
On Tue, 23 May 2017 15:48:12 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 23 May 2017 14:59:39 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
Right, because you couldn't possibly do any of that in the control
tower.
And since when did security cameras have the same viewing field as
the
human
eye thats carried around in a skull and can look in any direction
almost
instantly including vertically down?

You're assuming the tower has a glass floor?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pqIGEo88RXA/maxresdefault.jpg

I guess ir never occured to you to wonder why the windows are angled
outwards
instead of being vertical.

Oh dear! I realise I should know better, but you keep amazing me
with your
ignorance.
Think again.
[Hint: they don't sit with their faces pressed against the windows.]

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7139/7...8d4de58c_b.jpg

You really are such a bell-end sometimes in your desperate quest to
disagree
with everything I say.

They don't sit with their faces pressed to the windows? No ****! But the
angled windows give them potentially a greater field of view if they
need to
check out stuff down below. Or did you think it was an architectural
flourish?
Aww, bless.

This is the best spud-ism ever! Shall we tell him?


No, watching him get more and more annoyed while he displays his
ignorance is such fun. I predict a stream of bad language any time now.


Why? You see a friends brother happens to be an ATC at city airport which is
why I already knew about that plan to lay them off, sorry , "transfer". And
guess what? They use the angled windows to look out and keeps tabs on what is
going on right beneath them when appropriate. So all you so called aviation
experts can shoev your google answers where the angled windows don't reach.


I visited a friend who works in Stansted Tower. Their desks are several
metres from the windows - there are steps down from the control floor to a
walkway next to the windows, which also allows maintenance access to the
back of the desk equipment cabinets. To look downward out of the windows
the controllers would have to 'unplug' and walk from their desk several
metres to get to the window. It wasn't mentioned as something they ever
did, though I didn't specifically ask.


Anna Noyd-Dryver

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On Wed, 24 May 2017 13:54:06 -0000 (UTC)
Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
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Why? You see a friends brother happens to be an ATC at city airport which is
why I already knew about that plan to lay them off, sorry , "transfer". And
guess what? They use the angled windows to look out and keeps tabs on what

is
going on right beneath them when appropriate. So all you so called aviation
experts can shoev your google answers where the angled windows don't reach.




I visited a friend who works in Stansted Tower. Their desks are several
metres from the windows - there are steps down from the control floor to a
walkway next to the windows, which also allows maintenance access to the
back of the desk equipment cabinets. To look downward out of the windows
the controllers would have to 'unplug' and walk from their desk several
metres to get to the window. It wasn't mentioned as something they ever
did, though I didn't specifically ask.


Its an as and when apparently, presumably when they're worried about ground
vehicle movements conflicting with planes or something like that.

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On 24/05/2017 09:29, d wrote:
On Tue, 23 May 2017 17:10:46 +0100
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 23/05/2017 17:01, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2017\05\23 16:57,
d wrote:
On Tue, 23 May 2017 15:48:12 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 23 May 2017 14:59:39 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
Right, because you couldn't possibly do any of that in the control
tower.
And since when did security cameras have the same viewing field as
the
human
eye thats carried around in a skull and can look in any direction
almost
instantly including vertically down?

You're assuming the tower has a glass floor?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pqIGEo88RXA/maxresdefault.jpg

I guess ir never occured to you to wonder why the windows are angled
outwards
instead of being vertical.

Oh dear! I realise I should know better, but you keep amazing me
with your
ignorance.
Think again.
[Hint: they don't sit with their faces pressed against the windows.]

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7139/7...8d4de58c_b.jpg

You really are such a bell-end sometimes in your desperate quest to
disagree
with everything I say.

They don't sit with their faces pressed to the windows? No ****! But the
angled windows give them potentially a greater field of view if they
need to
check out stuff down below. Or did you think it was an architectural
flourish?
Aww, bless.

This is the best spud-ism ever! Shall we tell him?


No, watching him get more and more annoyed while he displays his
ignorance is such fun. I predict a stream of bad language any time now.


Why? You see a friends brother happens to be an ATC at city airport which is
why I already knew about that plan to lay them off, sorry , "transfer". And
guess what? They use the angled windows to look out and keeps tabs on what is
going on right beneath them when appropriate. So all you so called aviation
experts can shoev your google answers where the angled windows don't reach.


Another of your famous "friends"?

My sister is an ATC and she reckons the windows are angled to stop
reflections.

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Graeme Wall wrote:
On 25/05/2017 09:40, d wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 17:06:22 +0100
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 24/05/2017 09:29,
d wrote:
Why? You see a friends brother happens to be an ATC at city airport which is
why I already knew about that plan to lay them off, sorry , "transfer". And
guess what? They use the angled windows to look out and keeps tabs on what is
going on right beneath them when appropriate. So all you so called aviation
experts can shoev your google answers where the angled windows don't reach.



Another of your famous "friends"?


Huh? He's not a friend, he's a brother of a friend.

My sister is an ATC and she reckons the windows are angled to stop
reflections.


"Reckons"? Anyway, there doesn't have to be just one purpose. Perhaps the
reflections was the initial reason and a side effect was it led to better
visuals. Or vice verca.


It leads to better visibility because there are no reflections.


That's clearly (ha ha) the number one reason. The second reason is to
reduce the number of rain drops on the windows. As a by-product, it may
also help downward visibility, but only with control towers that allow
close access to the windows (many have desks and screens in the way). If
they really need a direct view down (irrelevant with most control towers),
a downward pointing camera will be much more useful, providing better
vision without leaving the desk.

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