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Crossrail access to Heathrow still not settled
Ding Bat wrote:
On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 9:26:07 PM UTC+5:30, Recliner wrote: Ding Bat wrote: On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 6:56:58 PM UTC+5:30, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 11:37:18 on Tue, 23 May 2017, Recliner remarked: "Lots of people fly into Heathrow wanting to visit ExCel? Really??" During major exhibitions - yes - absolutely. For example, World Travel Mart (held at Excel) is a "must attend" event in the travel business - there are loads of people who fly in specifically to attend it. City airport is much handier for Excel, but there are loads of places (especially long haul) which don't have flights into City. I'm aware of that show, and even have friends in that business (from overseas) who exhibit. They fly in and out of Luton, incidentally. It is, however, a tiny number of people compared to the million a day who are predicted to use Crossrail, or the 80,000 a day who use Heathrow. Like other shows at Excel, it attracts about 15-20,000 a day, of whom 3,000 a day are actual travel buyers. Out of that lot if more than 1,000 each of the three days have flown in through Heathrow, rather than being based in the UK or using other airports, E* etc to arrive from abroad, I'll eat my hat. Of course, 1,000 top quality buyers is plenty if you have a selling booth at WTM, but it's not a number to build a railway timetable around. No, but we were discussing the attractions of Crossrail vs HEx. Any of those visitors who currently use Heathrow and HEx will certainly switch to Crossrail. And some who previously flew to Luton may switch to LHR and Crossrail, too. Or they can change at Farringdon to Crossrail. It's just one example of the many flows that will use Crossrail rather than HEx. Yes, lots of "only quite a few" passengers. -- Roland Perry Does HEx have to continue to terminate at Paddington? Can't it go nonstop to Paddington and then continue to Abbey Wood with the same stops as what will replace Heathrow Connect? Even if that were possible, how could it attract a premium fare in such a case? And how could such a premium fare be enforced? There would be more passengers available to pay a premium, to offset the loss of passengers to the non-express Crossrail. Think Liverpool St to Heathrow with its being express after Paddington. Some proportion of passengers would choose to pay the premium for the time saving and if the express is less full, they'd also be paying the premium for comfort (not having to stand) if the premium keeps passenger count low enough for all, or all in Heathrow designated carriages, to get seats. Remember that standing would be more of a drag for those who have luggage. How could it be express after Padd? The Crossrail tunnels connect to the Relief, not the Main lines. Anyway, it's now academic, as HAL has lost the case. |
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Crossrail access to Heathrow still not settled
"Recliner" wrote in message ... Anyway, it's now academic, as HAL has lost the case. until they appeal :-) (I have no idea if that is likely as the legal arguments on which they lost are beyond me) tim |
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Crossrail access to Heathrow still not settled
tim... wrote:
"Recliner" wrote in message ... Anyway, it's now academic, as HAL has lost the case. until they appeal :-) (I have no idea if that is likely as the legal arguments on which they lost are beyond me) No, they have now exhausted the appeals procedures. |
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Crossrail access to Heathrow still not settled
"Recliner" wrote in message ... tim... wrote: "Recliner" wrote in message ... Anyway, it's now academic, as HAL has lost the case. until they appeal :-) (I have no idea if that is likely as the legal arguments on which they lost are beyond me) No, they have now exhausted the appeals procedures. have they? this was a judgment by a single judge at the high court is there really not a higher court they can apply to |
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Crossrail access to Heathrow still not settled
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-sept ember.org, at 15:58:54 on Fri, 26 May 2017, Recliner remarked: Think Liverpool St to Heathrow with its being express after Paddington. .... How could it be express after Padd? The Crossrail tunnels connect to the Relief, not the Main lines. I already covered that aspect in my remarks about a flat junction at Paddington. Anyway, it's now academic, as HAL has lost the case. Thanks for the info. -- Roland Perry |
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