On Mon, 31 Jul 2017 18:28:24 +0100, "tim..."
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"Recliner" wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 16:54:25 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message
-sept
ember.org, at 21:53:19 on Fri, 28 Jul 2017, Recliner
remarked:

In other news, I've received a brand new set of Tesco Loyalty Card
keyfobs, which they claim are a vast improvement over the old ones.

Except the old ones were recognised by their self-service tills and -
CAN YOU EVEN START TO BELIEVE THIS - the new one's aren't.

It's way beyond "you couldn't make this up".

That's interesting. I've received them too, but have yet to use them.

They've at least fitted newer barcode scanners on the self-service till
I used yesterday (different branch of Tesco).

I don't think I've ever used a self-service Tesco till.

is the inclusion of Tesco a necessary part of that response?

Well, I have reluctantly used other self-service tills, so, yes. Also,
this thread is specifically about changes to Tesco's Clubcard.

In message , at 16:54:25 on Sat, 29 Jul
2017, Roland Perry remarked:

In other news, I've received a brand new set of Tesco Loyalty Card
keyfobs, which they claim are a vast improvement over the old ones.

Except the old ones were recognised by their self-service tills and -
CAN YOU EVEN START TO BELIEVE THIS - the new one's aren't.

It's way beyond "you couldn't make this up".

That's interesting. I've received them too, but have yet to use them.

They've at least fitted newer barcode scanners on the self-service till
I used yesterday (different branch of Tesco).

And today, at the petrol station attached to the latter Tesco, with
brand new pumps installed a couple of months ago... yes, they don't work
with the new fobs. weeps
--
Roland Perry

On Tue, 1 Aug 2017 10:07:26 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:54:25 on Sat, 29 Jul
2017, Roland Perry remarked:

In other news, I've received a brand new set of Tesco Loyalty Card
keyfobs, which they claim are a vast improvement over the old ones.

Except the old ones were recognised by their self-service tills and -
CAN YOU EVEN START TO BELIEVE THIS - the new one's aren't.

It's way beyond "you couldn't make this up".

That's interesting. I've received them too, but have yet to use them.

They've at least fitted newer barcode scanners on the self-service till
I used yesterday (different branch of Tesco).

And today, at the petrol station attached to the latter Tesco, with
brand new pumps installed a couple of months ago... yes, they don't work
with the new fobs. weeps

Oh dear, you might actually have to go inside and talk to a human when you pay.
The horror!

--
Spud

In message , at 10:16:29 on Tue, 1 Aug
2017, d remarked:
In other news, I've received a brand new set of Tesco Loyalty Card
keyfobs, which they claim are a vast improvement over the old ones.

Except the old ones were recognised by their self-service tills and -
CAN YOU EVEN START TO BELIEVE THIS - the new one's aren't.

It's way beyond "you couldn't make this up".

That's interesting. I've received them too, but have yet to use them.

They've at least fitted newer barcode scanners on the self-service till
I used yesterday (different branch of Tesco).

And today, at the petrol station attached to the latter Tesco, with
brand new pumps installed a couple of months ago... yes, they don't work
with the new fobs. weeps

Oh dear, you might actually have to go inside and talk to a human when you pay.
The horror!

The "inside" isn't manned 24x7. And thanks for confirming my impression
that there's a breed of tech geek who thinks one minor improvement is
justifiable, how ever many negative consequences it has. (And no,
talking to humans isn't one of those - the human's barcode reader
struggled to read the new fob too, increasing the length of the queue).
--
Roland Perry

On Tue, 1 Aug 2017 11:54:11 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 10:16:29 on Tue, 1 Aug
2017, d remarked:
Oh dear, you might actually have to go inside and talk to a human when you
pay.
The horror!

The "inside" isn't manned 24x7. And thanks for confirming my impression
that there's a breed of tech geek who thinks one minor improvement is
justifiable, how ever many negative consequences it has. (And no,
talking to humans isn't one of those - the human's barcode reader
struggled to read the new fob too, increasing the length of the queue).

So pay by card or cash, whats the problem?

In fact petrol stations are where I get shot of all of my lose change since
you can spend exactly the amount you want down to the penny.

--
Spud

In message , at 12:39:19 on Tue, 1 Aug
2017, d remarked:
Oh dear, you might actually have to go inside and talk to a human when you
pay.
The horror!

The "inside" isn't manned 24x7. And thanks for confirming my impression
that there's a breed of tech geek who thinks one minor improvement is
justifiable, how ever many negative consequences it has. (And no,
talking to humans isn't one of those - the human's barcode reader
struggled to read the new fob too, increasing the length of the queue).

So pay by card or cash, whats the problem?

Do keep up; it's their *loyalty* card, not a payment card.
--
Roland Perry

On Tue, 1 Aug 2017 14:35:53 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:39:19 on Tue, 1 Aug
2017, d remarked:
Oh dear, you might actually have to go inside and talk to a human when you
pay.
The horror!

The "inside" isn't manned 24x7. And thanks for confirming my impression
that there's a breed of tech geek who thinks one minor improvement is
justifiable, how ever many negative consequences it has. (And no,
talking to humans isn't one of those - the human's barcode reader
struggled to read the new fob too, increasing the length of the queue).

So pay by card or cash, whats the problem?

Do keep up; it's their *loyalty* card, not a payment card.

Fair enough.

Tesco have their own bank however so it wouldn't be beyond the realms of
possibilty for them to have to release a smart card/fob for payment.

--
Spud

In message , at 13:40:31 on Tue, 1 Aug
2017, d remarked:

The "inside" isn't manned 24x7. And thanks for confirming my impression
that there's a breed of tech geek who thinks one minor improvement is
justifiable, how ever many negative consequences it has. (And no,
talking to humans isn't one of those - the human's barcode reader
struggled to read the new fob too, increasing the length of the queue).

So pay by card or cash, whats the problem?

Do keep up; it's their *loyalty* card, not a payment card.

Fair enough.

Tesco have their own bank

The shop people claim the ATMs are "nothing to do with us", so it could
be a branding thing like Virgin Trains being nothing to do with Virgin
Bank.

however so it wouldn't be beyond the realms of
possibilty for them to have to release a smart card/fob for payment.

I have always thought they should have a combined Credit/Loyalty card.
Maybe there's some regulatory issue with it.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote on 01 Aug 2017 at 14:54 ...
In message , at 13:40:31 on Tue, 1 Aug
2017, d remarked:

The "inside" isn't manned 24x7. And thanks for confirming my impression
that there's a breed of tech geek who thinks one minor improvement is
justifiable, how ever many negative consequences it has. (And no,
talking to humans isn't one of those - the human's barcode reader
struggled to read the new fob too, increasing the length of the queue).

So pay by card or cash, whats the problem?

Do keep up; it's their *loyalty* card, not a payment card.

Fair enough.

Tesco have their own bank

The shop people claim the ATMs are "nothing to do with us", so it could
be a branding thing like Virgin Trains being nothing to do with Virgin
Bank.

however so it wouldn't be beyond the realms of
possibilty for them to have to release a smart card/fob for payment.

I have always thought they should have a combined Credit/Loyalty card.
Maybe there's some regulatory issue with it.

John Lewis manage to have a credit card with a reward scheme that favours purchases in John Lewis and Waitrose, so there's evidently no regulatory issue with that. However they also have a separate loyalty card for John Lewis, and yet another one for Waitrose ("My Waitrose"). So full loyalty to the John Lewis group implies three cards in your wallet. :-(
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

Richard J. wrote:
Roland Perry wrote on 01 Aug 2017 at 14:54 ...
In message , at 13:40:31 on Tue, 1 Aug
2017, d remarked:

The "inside" isn't manned 24x7. And thanks for confirming my impression
that there's a breed of tech geek who thinks one minor improvement is
justifiable, how ever many negative consequences it has. (And no,
talking to humans isn't one of those - the human's barcode reader
struggled to read the new fob too, increasing the length of the queue).

So pay by card or cash, whats the problem?

Do keep up; it's their *loyalty* card, not a payment card.

Fair enough.

Tesco have their own bank

The shop people claim the ATMs are "nothing to do with us", so it could
be a branding thing like Virgin Trains being nothing to do with Virgin
Bank.

however so it wouldn't be beyond the realms of
possibilty for them to have to release a smart card/fob for payment.

I have always thought they should have a combined Credit/Loyalty card.
Maybe there's some regulatory issue with it.

John Lewis manage to have a credit card with a reward scheme that favours
purchases in John Lewis and Waitrose, so there's evidently no regulatory issue with that.

Indeed not; Tesco implemented this idea decades ago, but Roland appears not
to have noticed the ad by every checkout.

However they also have a separate loyalty card for John Lewis, and yet
another one for Waitrose ("My Waitrose"). So full loyalty to the John
Lewis group implies three cards in your wallet. :-(

Why not one of these?
https://www.johnlewisfinance.com/par.../benefits.html