Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:20:33 on
Wed, 26 Jul 2017, Recliner remarked:

The big gap now is that contactless technology, which will be used by second
generation Oyster cards soon, doesn't handle railcard discounts.

I don't think contactless technology is the issue. It's just that TfL
hasn't got around to implementing railcard discounts in the back
office systems. It seems to have been concentrating first on providing
new features, rather than replicating existing ones.

On a quite galactic timescale. What is it with their IT people that such
a simple thing takes so long? Get your baseball bats out, Mr Mayor.

And people think I'm being unreasonable to spurn expections that
e-ticketing with orders of magnitude more bells and whistles will turn
up overnight.

I'm sure you'll love this proposal, then?
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/facial-recognition-technology-signals-the-end-of-train-tickets-9n329rxq9?shareToken=f42d1469eaec81ba631834332f367 4a7

"Recliner" wrote in message
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:20:33 on
Wed, 26 Jul 2017, Recliner remarked:

The big gap now is that contactless technology, which will be used by
second
generation Oyster cards soon, doesn't handle railcard discounts.

I don't think contactless technology is the issue. It's just that TfL
hasn't got around to implementing railcard discounts in the back
office systems. It seems to have been concentrating first on providing
new features, rather than replicating existing ones.

On a quite galactic timescale. What is it with their IT people that such
a simple thing takes so long? Get your baseball bats out, Mr Mayor.

And people think I'm being unreasonable to spurn expections that
e-ticketing with orders of magnitude more bells and whistles will turn
up overnight.

I'm sure you'll love this proposal, then?
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/facial-recognition-technology-signals-the-end-of-train-tickets-9n329rxq9?shareToken=f42d1469eaec81ba631834332f367 4a7

I hope these "fast track" lines are faster than the ones at border control,
cos they are glacial.

and they have the advantage of having the picture that they are comparing
with supplied to them, they don't have to go searching a database of 20
million people for it.

I'm skeptical

tim

tim... wrote:


"Recliner" wrote in message
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:20:33 on
Wed, 26 Jul 2017, Recliner remarked:

The big gap now is that contactless technology, which will be used by
second
generation Oyster cards soon, doesn't handle railcard discounts.

I don't think contactless technology is the issue. It's just that TfL
hasn't got around to implementing railcard discounts in the back
office systems. It seems to have been concentrating first on providing
new features, rather than replicating existing ones.

On a quite galactic timescale. What is it with their IT people that such
a simple thing takes so long? Get your baseball bats out, Mr Mayor.

And people think I'm being unreasonable to spurn expections that
e-ticketing with orders of magnitude more bells and whistles will turn
up overnight.

I'm sure you'll love this proposal, then?
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/facial-recognition-technology-signals-the-end-of-train-tickets-9n329rxq9?shareToken=f42d1469eaec81ba631834332f367 4a7

I hope these "fast track" lines are faster than the ones at border control,
cos they are glacial.

and they have the advantage of having the picture that they are comparing
with supplied to them, they don't have to go searching a database of 20
million people for it.

I'm skeptical

Me too: it's very hard to envisage these scanners being nearly as fast as
an Oyster card reader.

In message
-sept
ember.org, at 10:58:57 on Thu, 27 Jul 2017, Recliner
remarked:

And people think I'm being unreasonable to spurn expections that
e-ticketing with orders of magnitude more bells and whistles will turn
up overnight.

I'm sure you'll love this proposal, then?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f...eaec81ba631834
332f3674a7

As they say "Privacy is dead, get over it".

Apparently an audit trail for one's travel is also dead for the very
person who needs it most - the paying passenger.

In other news, I've received a brand new set of Tesco Loyalty Card
keyfobs, which they claim are a vast improvement over the old ones.

Except the old ones were recognised by their self-service tills and -
CAN YOU EVEN START TO BELIEVE THIS - the new one's aren't.

It's way beyond "you couldn't make this up".
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message
-sept
ember.org, at 10:58:57 on Thu, 27 Jul 2017, Recliner
remarked:

And people think I'm being unreasonable to spurn expections that
e-ticketing with orders of magnitude more bells and whistles will turn
up overnight.

I'm sure you'll love this proposal, then?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f...eaec81ba631834
332f3674a7

As they say "Privacy is dead, get over it".

Apparently an audit trail for one's travel is also dead for the very
person who needs it most - the paying passenger.

In other news, I've received a brand new set of Tesco Loyalty Card
keyfobs, which they claim are a vast improvement over the old ones.

Except the old ones were recognised by their self-service tills and -
CAN YOU EVEN START TO BELIEVE THIS - the new one's aren't.

It's way beyond "you couldn't make this up".

That's interesting. I've received them too, but have yet to use them.

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In other news, I've received a brand new set of Tesco Loyalty Card
keyfobs, which they claim are a vast improvement over the old ones.

Except the old ones were recognised by their self-service tills and -
CAN YOU EVEN START TO BELIEVE THIS - the new one's aren't.

It's way beyond "you couldn't make this up".

Thanks for the warning. I had that mailing today which I'll bear in mind on
the next rare occasion when I shop at Tesco.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message
-sept
ember.org, at 21:53:19 on Fri, 28 Jul 2017, Recliner
remarked:

In other news, I've received a brand new set of Tesco Loyalty Card
keyfobs, which they claim are a vast improvement over the old ones.

Except the old ones were recognised by their self-service tills and -
CAN YOU EVEN START TO BELIEVE THIS - the new one's aren't.

It's way beyond "you couldn't make this up".

That's interesting. I've received them too, but have yet to use them.

They've at least fitted newer barcode scanners on the self-service till
I used yesterday (different branch of Tesco).
--
Roland Perry

On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 16:54:25 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message
-sept
ember.org, at 21:53:19 on Fri, 28 Jul 2017, Recliner
remarked:

In other news, I've received a brand new set of Tesco Loyalty Card
keyfobs, which they claim are a vast improvement over the old ones.

Except the old ones were recognised by their self-service tills and -
CAN YOU EVEN START TO BELIEVE THIS - the new one's aren't.

It's way beyond "you couldn't make this up".

That's interesting. I've received them too, but have yet to use them.

They've at least fitted newer barcode scanners on the self-service till
I used yesterday (different branch of Tesco).

I don't think I've ever used a self-service Tesco till.

In message , at 14:52:54 on
Mon, 31 Jul 2017, Recliner remarked:

In other news, I've received a brand new set of Tesco Loyalty Card
keyfobs, which they claim are a vast improvement over the old ones.

Except the old ones were recognised by their self-service tills and -
CAN YOU EVEN START TO BELIEVE THIS - the new one's aren't.

It's way beyond "you couldn't make this up".

That's interesting. I've received them too, but have yet to use them.

They've at least fitted newer barcode scanners on the self-service till
I used yesterday (different branch of Tesco).

I don't think I've ever used a self-service Tesco till.

At our mid-sized superstore they are the only ones which are open
overnight.

I prefer to use them because you can check that the right price is being
charged for discounted items. Far too often the scanners pick up the
non-discounted price, and human till operators never check.
--
Roland Perry

"Recliner" wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 16:54:25 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message
-sept
ember.org, at 21:53:19 on Fri, 28 Jul 2017, Recliner
remarked:

In other news, I've received a brand new set of Tesco Loyalty Card
keyfobs, which they claim are a vast improvement over the old ones.

Except the old ones were recognised by their self-service tills and -
CAN YOU EVEN START TO BELIEVE THIS - the new one's aren't.

It's way beyond "you couldn't make this up".

That's interesting. I've received them too, but have yet to use them.

They've at least fitted newer barcode scanners on the self-service till
I used yesterday (different branch of Tesco).

I don't think I've ever used a self-service Tesco till.

is the inclusion of Tesco a necessary part of that response?

tim